Mailman 3 February 2019 - Mailman-Users

deleting archives, default sender addresses
by Dave McGuire Feb. 27, 2019

Feb. 27, 2019

Hi folks. I'm a longtime Mailman 2 user, working with Mailman 3 for the first time (specifically v3.1.1) and things are going pretty well so far. I don't particularly like having to run it under Linux (we're a Solaris-based outfit) but I bit the bullet and built a VM for it. I've hit two little snags, though. First, I created a test list and exercised it a bit, then deleted it...the archives are still in Hyperkitty, though. How can I delete those? Second, address confirmation emails are coming from postorius(a)localhost.local. I've dug and dug, and I've not been able to override it. There are numerous archived forum posts about this, and none of the proposed solutions I've found seem to work. Help? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to secure the list server web page
by David Gibbs Feb. 27, 2019

Feb. 27, 2019

On 2/27/2019 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Westgate wrote: > OK. thanks for that. So I can copy/paste the same line in the > mm_cfg.py, at the bottom, under the site-specific config block? Yes. david -- IBM i on Power Systems: For when you can't afford to be out of business! I'm riding 615 miles (Yes, you read that right) in the American Diabetes Association's Tour de Cure to raise money for diabetes research, education, advocacy, and awareness. You can make a tax-deductible donation to my ride by visiting https://mideml.diabetessucks.net. You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive donation map ... https://mideml.diabetessucks.net/map (it's a geeky thing). I may have diabetes, but diabetes doesn't have me!

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Postfix relay_domains and MySQL tables (uncertainties of the beginner)
by Davide Marchi Feb. 26, 2019

Feb. 26, 2019

Hi Friends, I've just installed Mailman 2.1.23 on Debian Stretch, Postfix+Dovecot with "virtual_domains" "virtual_users" "virtual_aliases" on MySQL, and all seems works fine, but not tested again. I write you for clarification before to start. I'm not shure about the Postfix option: postconf -e 'relay_domains = lists.example.com' I'm using this mail server as a normal mail server and not just for Mailman only, so I would not like this parameter to create problems with sending / receiving mail from other users (outside Mailman) And again since I have not read anything on the net about it, could be create any Mailman problems if I use MySQL as described above? 1) virtual_domains table for holds the list of domains that I will use as virtual_mailbox_domains in Postfix: " user = mailuser password = 123456789 hosts = 127.0.0.1 dbname = mailserver query = SELECT 1 FROM virtual_domains WHERE name='%s' " 2) virtual_users the table contains information about my users which is mapping email addresses (virtual_mailbox_maps) to the location of the user’s mailbox in Postfix: " user = mailuser password = 123456789 hosts = 127.0.0.1 dbname = mailserver query = SELECT 1 FROM virtual_users WHERE email='%s' " 3) virtual_aliases table for mapping that information about my users for forwarding emails from one email address to others (virtual_alias_maps mapping) " user = mailuser password = 123456789 hosts = 127.0.0.1 dbname = mailserver query = SELECT destination FROM virtual_aliases WHERE source='%s' " 4) and last but not last "/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf" for the latter mapping: " user = mailuser password = 123456789 hosts = 127.0.0.1 dbname = mailserver query = SELECT email FROM virtual_users WHERE email='%s' " virtual_alias_maps=mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf Many many thanks to all! Davide

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get a (limitted) copy of messages discarded due to spam filters
by karrageorgiou giannis Feb. 25, 2019

Feb. 25, 2019

dear mailman people, I have a public list and try to trim the inevitable spam with rules that look reasonable but I am not completely sure they won't backfire for legit mails (e.g. consider sender names as fictitious when having 20+ consecutive letters) I was thinking of receiving a copy of the discarded messages for sometime, until I am sure the rule is fair, and manually forward as myself a mistakenly dropped text (preferably get the text/plain part only; still drop them automatically (attachments and all), as most are expected to be spam, not deserving to store and hold for approval) (notice that mailman is used as testbed. The regexrule (when verified) would go to postix drop ruleset, so mailman won't even be bothered) is this possible with mailman? I didn't see something relevant in the web-interface (but I might have missed it; sorry to bother you if so) thanks beforehand for any clue giannis

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Moderating if keywords mentioned?
by Peter Shute Feb. 22, 2019

Feb. 22, 2019

Is it possible to specify keywords that will cause a matching message to held for moderation? I thought I'd seen something like this, but I can't find it in the admin interface. Peter Shute

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How to kill zombie pending moderator requests?
by Bill Cole Feb. 16, 2019

Feb. 16, 2019

I recently migrated a set of Mailman lists from a standard 2.1.18 installation (on ancient RedHat) to a cPanel host (CentOS 7) running Mailman 2.1.27. One glitch in that migration involves a pending moderation issue, which ultimately does not need to be dealt with because it was just spam to the list address from a non-member. Due to some flaw in my migration process (probably related to cPanel's list name mangling) the daily pending request reminder script is sending the moderator a reminder of the issue, however the issue is not visible in the web UI. The pending.pck file for the list has this unilluminating content: # ../../bin/dumpdb pending.pck [----- start pickle file -----] <----- start object 1 -----> { 'evictions': { 'fe643c3a29afd79686e7ee0578f83b2fa2ae1eba': 1550223270.461477}, 'fe643c3a29afd79686e7ee0578f83b2fa2ae1eba': ('H', 2440), 'version': 2} [----- end pickle file -----] Python is not a language I use much so I'm not sure what the daily 'checkdbs' script is seeing that makes it think there's a pending issue or what exactly the contents of that pending.pck means, although I expect it is relevant. The other 3 lists that were migrated in the same way at the same time which did not have pending issues have similar pending.pck contents but DO NOT generate the phantom notifications. My first impulse is to just clobber the pending.pck file, but I am not sure if that is safe. Advice would be greatly appreciated. -- Bill Cole bill(a)scconsult.com or billcole(a)apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *(a)billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Available For Hire: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole -- Bill Cole bill(a)scconsult.com or billcole(a)apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *(a)billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Available For Hire: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole

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Problems sending to prodigy.net mail server addresses
by Richard Johnson Feb. 12, 2019

Feb. 12, 2019

I run a small mailman server for our historical recreation group. Lately, I've been seeing messages like: <email@hostname>: host al-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.235.143] said: 550 5.7.1 Connections not accepted from servers without a valid sender domain.alph733 Fix reverse DNS for 149.28.67.38 (in reply to MAIL FROM command) The addresses "email@hostname" is actually the failed recipient address. The two giving problems are at pacbell.net and sbcglobal.net. I assume their email is handled by prodigy.net. What seems strange is that MOST of the time messages go through just fine, but ever now-and-then I'll get this failure notice. The messages are all sent to the mailing list "cortha(a)cortha.org". I have the mailing list setup with "host_name" set as "cortha.org", so that the address used in the messages will be "cortha(a)cortha.org" and replies will go there. The system which is actually handling the mailing list is officially named "peacock.place", but an MX points there from cortha.org. The reverse DNS (PTR) record gives the peacock.place name, since that's the official hostname. If Prodigy is comparing the From: address with the PTR record, then, yes, it will not agree. This would be crazy, since the PTR can only point to one hostname and is supposed to be the official hostname. I believe I have my DKIM and DMARC info correct as well. Personally, I think Prodigy just has a problem with no one else has and it seems to be their own, but I'm wondering if there's some way to work with them? Any help is greatly appreciated! /raj

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MM 3.1.1 equivalent for bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner
by M4tze Feb. 11, 2019

Feb. 11, 2019

Hi list, I am new to this list and hope to get some help. I am running mailman 3.1.1 and face some trouble with unrecognized bounces, i.e. spam messages to the -bounce@ address. In older MM versions, there was a config option named bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner so that (when set to 'No') such spam messages are discarded. I am missing such a config value in MM 3.1.1 - or did I just not find it? If there is no equivalent config option, I would try to change the code in order to discard such messages automatically, but I am not so much into MM development. Could you help me out finding relevant functions? Thank you in advance Kind regards - M4tze

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held messages not visible in web interface
by Keith Seyffarth Feb. 5, 2019

Feb. 5, 2019

I have run into an interesting issue on one of my several mailman mailing lists. Notifications are sent to the admins that there are messages being held for moderation, but when you log in to the admin interface and go to "Tend to pending moderator requests," there are no messages held. This is on Mailman 2.1.15 on a PLESK server on CentOS. Any idea what may be going on here, or how to make these messages visible again? Thanks, Keith -- ---- from my mac to yours... Keith Seyffarth mailto:weif@weif.net http://www.weif.net/ - Home of the First Tank Guide! http://www.rpgcalendar.net/ - the Montana Role-Playing Calendar ---- http://www.miscon.org/ - Montana's Longest Running Science Fiction Convention

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multiple domains - mailman-bounces@subdomain.example.com not
by Konrad Wawryn Feb. 4, 2019

Feb. 4, 2019

Hi, maybe some one will be able to support me here. In our Mailman configuration we are using two sender domains: example.com subdomain.example.com In the file /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman I have found only this addresses # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Thu Jun 22 10:43:16 2017 mailman(a)example.com mailman mailman-admin(a)example.com mailman-admin mailman-bounces(a)example.com mailman-bounces mailman-confirm(a)example.com mailman-confirm mailman-join(a)example.com mailman-join mailman-leave(a)example.com mailman-leave mailman-owner(a)example.com mailman-owner mailman-request(a)example.com mailman-request mailman-subscribe(a)example.com mailman-subscribe mailman-unsubscribe(a)example.com mailman-unsubscribe but there are no entries for subdomain.example.com. When system sending messages with sender domain - subdomain.example.com out - then we have a problem with e-mail loop because e-mail address mailman-owner(a)subdomain.example.com is not known for the mailman and server pushing it to the relay. I would like to understand how its working with multiple domains. Does mailman and mailman-*@* addresses are reserverd only for root domain ? What about subdomain ? Do I have to create separate entry like this one to resolve my e-mail loop issue ? mailman(a)subdomain.example.com mailman mailman-admin(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-admin mailman-bounces(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-bounces mailman-confirm(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-confirm mailman-join(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-join mailman-leave(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-leave mailman-owner(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-owner mailman-request(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-request mailman-subscribe(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-subscribe mailman-unsubscribe(a)subdomain.example.com mailman-unsubscribe In the postfix mail_log I see that instead of to deliver this message to local mailman accounts From: mailman-bounces(a)subdomain.example.com To: mailman-owner(a)subdomain.example.com postfix is forwarding that messages to the next relay. Do I need to configure for all sender subdomains aliases where each alias will point default account mailman, mailman-*(a)example.com or each subdomain should use its own aliases mailman, mailman-*(a)subdomain.example.com ? Thanks in advance for Your support. Cheers Konrad -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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