Mailman 3 March 2019 - Mailman-Users

Is there a way to get a list of all lists with the list owner?
by Steven Jones March 15, 2019

March 15, 2019

regards Steven

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FYI: Mailbait operating under a new domain
by David Gibbs March 13, 2019

March 13, 2019

Folks: Just a FYI ... the a--hole who runs mailbait.info appears to be operating under a new domain name ... smoremail.com. If you've implemented any web rules to prevent attacks from mailbait, you'll need to update those rules. This 'service' is supposed to allow you to fill your mailbox … why anyone would want to do this is beyond me … and it has absolutely ZERO protections against submitting someone else's email address. david -- IBM i on Power Systems: For when you can't afford to be out of business! I'm riding 615 miles (Yes, you read that right) in the American Diabetes Association's Tour de Cure to raise money for diabetes research, education, advocacy, and awareness. You can make a tax-deductible donation to my ride by visiting https://mideml.diabetessucks.net. You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive donation map ... https://mideml.diabetessucks.net/map (it's a geeky thing). I may have diabetes, but diabetes doesn't have me!

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MTA says too many recipients
by Ajay Guleria March 13, 2019

March 13, 2019

> > > We are using mailman 2.x. We are relaying all mails though a postfix MTA server where smtpd_recipeint_limit is 36. On mailman server in logs we are getting 452: 4.5.3 Error: too many recipients. Our mailing list has 960 members and Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting value is 0. How to resolve this issue? > > Ajay > >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception
by Lothar Schilling March 12, 2019

March 12, 2019

> On 3/8/19 8:17 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 3/8/19 12:05 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote: >>> Am 07.03.2019 um 23:54 schrieb Mark Sapiro: >>>> I would still like to find the underlying issue. I have been unable to >>>> duplicate it locally. I would appreciate it if before you run >>>> bin/unshunt, you could copy a few of the .pck files aside and send them >>>> to me off-list. >>> Will send some .pck files to your private address. Some may hold content >>> which is not meant to be publicly available, they are for your eyes only :-) >> >> Thank you. I will treat them confidentially. > > I have set up a test wherein I symlinked the qfiles path from the > metadata in the shunted .pck files to the qfiles directory in the test > installation, created the 5 lists that the shunted messages were > destined to with preferred language = German and unshunted the 5 messages. > > The test Mailman is the head of the > https://code.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1 branch, but this > differs from the 2.1.29 release in minor ways, none of which have to do > with archiving. > > Each of the unshunted messages was properly archived with no exceptions > being thrown and qfiles/shunt/ was empty after unshunting. > > I then removed the 5 lists and started over, this time with > > ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS = No > > which is the only setting I see offhand that might affect this, but the > result was the same, no error. > > Also, I note that some of the shunted messages had no non-ascii in From: > > I don't know what's going on in your installation, but I can't duplicate > the issue. It may have something to do with list configuration or your > German message catalog or templates if you have any changes in that area > (i.e. any templates/site/de/* templates/HOST_NAME/de/* or > templates/lists/LIST_NAME/de/* files not properly encoded as > iso-8859-1). It could also be something in the > archives/private/LIST_NAME/database/* files, although this would > probably only affect the period in which you upgraded. > > In order to go any further with this, I'd need to see complete error and > traceback information from Mailman's error log for the recently shunted > messages. > An example of a complete error message: Mar 11 17:02:22 2019 (15400) SHUNTING: 1552320069.504329+15fb4f71a5404fd1af3dafbe2780486d5b474cc7 Mar 11 17:22:37 2019 (15400) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xb5 in position 26: ordinal not in range(128) Mar 11 17:22:37 2019 (15400) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 77, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.processUnixMailbox(f) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 602, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 646, in add_article author = fixAuthor(article.decoded['author']) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 63, in fixAuthor while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xb5 in position 26: ordinal not in range(128) The problem is site-wide, not just for one or two lists. Anyway, there are no altered templates or messages for a specific list. The only files deviating from the default configuration are: Defaults.py mm_cfg.py Of course Defaults.py has DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'. So in mm_cfg.py I added DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de' add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'iso-8859-1', 'ltr') But I cannot see how this would cause the problem.

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Uncaught runner exception
by Lothar Schilling March 8, 2019

March 8, 2019

Hi everybody, a few weeks ago I upgraded from 2.1.16 (as far as I can remember...) to 2.1.29. Everything seemed to work fine at first. But then I found out that a lot of posts - actually far more than half of them - aren't archived any longer. What logging the errors tells me is this: Feb 28 12:29:02 2019 (3123) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xb5 in position 26: ordinal not in range(128) Feb 28 12:29:02 2019 (3123) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 77, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.processUnixMailbox(f) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 596, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 640, in add_article author = fixAuthor(article.decoded['author']) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 63, in fixAuthor while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or [error message stops right here] As I read in a previous thread the reason for this may be non-ascii compliant characters in the post, especially the "from:"-line. But why would Python or Mailman now all of a sudden use ASCII instead of UTF-8 in the first place? And if so: How can I change that behaviour? I am using Python 2.6.6 on a Centos 6 system. The output of /usr/lib64/python >>> import string >>> string.lowercase is 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' (as it is supposed to be). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Lothar Schilling

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How auto create Postfix virtual aliases on MySQL table
by Davide Marchi March 8, 2019

March 8, 2019

> On 3/7/19 12:36 PM, Davide Marchi wrote: >> Hi Friends, >> We have a Postfix mail server on Debian Stretch, where all virtual >> user >> and virtual aliases are stored on MySQL tables. >> I would like to know if Mailman could provide its creation in >> automatic >> or alternatively is there a configuration file that provides the >> execution of a script at the end of every new list generation? >> so as not to lose the changes to each update? > > Assuming you are talking about Mailman 2.1 (this is a MM 2.1 list), and > assuming You have Postfix/Mailman integration set up as in sections > 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 of the installation manual > <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html>, every time a list is > created or removed, Mailman runs the commands defined by default as: > > POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' > POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' > > to update the .db files for Mailman's data/aliases and > data/virtual-mailman > > You can set these in mm_cfg.py to point to any script you want to read > the files and do whatever you need. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > Yes, I'm are talking about Mailman 2.1, excuse me for not having declared it! I've found very useful your your suggestions, now I will do some tests .. may thanks! Davide

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list "Mailman" mandatory?
by Davide Marchi March 8, 2019

March 8, 2019

> > On 3/7/19 12:23 PM, Davide Marchi wrote: > >> Anyway, only just to prevent mistakes from our new members (that are >> not >> really technicians..), >> could you suggest me how is it possible to hide it from the list web >> page? > > You can not display it on the listinfo and admin web overview pages by > setting it's Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> advertised > setting to No. > > However the listinfo overview page will still say > > If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact > mailman(a)example.com. > > and the admin overview will say > > (Send questions and comments to mailman(a)example.com.) > > Changing that address would require modifying the code. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > Well, very thanks Mark, this solve my "big" problem! :-D Thanks again! Davide

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How auto create Postfix virtual aliases on MySQL table
by Davide Marchi March 7, 2019

March 7, 2019

Hi Friends, We have a Postfix mail server on Debian Stretch, where all virtual user and virtual aliases are stored on MySQL tables. I would like to know if Mailman could provide its creation in automatic or alternatively is there a configuration file that provides the execution of a script at the end of every new list generation? so as not to lose the changes to each update? Many many thanks! Davide Marchi

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list "Mailman" mandatory?
by Davide Marchi March 7, 2019

March 7, 2019

mailman-users-request(a)python.org ha scritto: > On 3/6/19 10:22 AM, Davide Marchi wrote: >> Hi Friends, and excuse me for my silly question! >> >> I've read from a non official documentation, here: >> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-and-configure-mailman-with-postfi… >> >> that "Before we can start to use Mailman, we must create a mailing >> list >> called mailman; this is obligatory - without it Mailman won't start:" >> >> is this information right? >> Or is it mandatory to start up Mailman and then (after the new lists >> creation) it can be removed? > > Mailman 2.1 requires the site list, normally named 'mailman'. In a new > installation, you need to create this list before you can start > Mailman. > Typically, you create it with Mailman's bin/newlist command. > > And no, you can't remove it. Well! Anyway, only just to prevent mistakes from our new members (that are not really technicians..), could you suggest me how is it possible to hide it from the list web page? Thanks again Davide Marchi -- cosmogoniAcosmogoniA logo n o p r o v a r e n o f a r e o n o n f a r e n o n c e p r o v a r e

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Bogus mail to list from JavaMail.yahoo
by Mark Dale March 7, 2019

March 7, 2019

Hi All, This may be a Postfix issue rather than a Mailman one, but the Mailman post log (snip below) is showing some relevant info, so here goes. This morning there was a legitimate post to a list from a subscriber with a Gmail account. Shortly after, there was a deluge of bogus posts (one every minute) repeating the same email to the list purporting to come from the same address. The Mailman "post" logs below show the original at 13:43 with the google.com ID, and the following bogus messages all with a yahoo.com ID This appears to be happening to only the one list on the server. If anyone could shed some light on this, or point me in the right direction, it'd be much appreciated. Regards, Mark Mar 06 13:43:12 2019 (21321) post to redacted-listname from john.citizen(a)gmail.com, size=18763, message-id=<0000000000000aa0c9058371592c(a)google.com>, success Mar 06 13:44:09 2019 (21321) post to redacted-listname from john.citizen(a)gmail.com, size=16906, message-id=<1951431589.1505.1551897769010.JavaMail.yahoo(a)tardis008.cal.bf1.yahoo.com>, success Mar 06 13:45:09 2019 (21321) post to redacted-listname from john.citizen(a)gmail.com, size=16896, message-id=<1838256988.2441.1551897771539.JavaMail.yahoo(a)tardis064.cal.bf1.yahoo.com>, success Mar 06 13:46:06 2019 (21321) post to redacted-listname from john.citizen(a)gmail.com, size=16889, message-id=<574641303.2211.1551897775604.JavaMail.yahoo(a)tardis001.cal.bf1.yahoo.com>, success ... and on and on ...

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