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Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!
by Jayson Smith Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

Hi, This is a weird one. I think of myself as knowing my way around Mailman pretty well for a user/admin/installer/upgrader. I'm upgrading to a Debian 9 system from CentOS 6.5. Debian's Apache configs took a bit of getting used to, but I actually like them better. It uses Apache 2.4.2. I wanted to install Mailman from source, since the latest version is 2.1.26, Debian has 2.1.23, and IIRC that's too old to have some screen reader optimizations I want. So I built, installed, all working well. I copied over the Mailman config from my CentOS system to use in Apache, making some changes so it'd work under 2.4.2. Here it is: -------------------- # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Require all granted </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted AddDefaultCharset Off </Directory> # Uncomment the following line, to redirect queries to /mailman to the # listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo -------------------- The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to /mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me, with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache 2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something else changed between Apache versions? Thanks, Jayson

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mailman on google comput engine
by 황병희 Oct. 8, 2019

Oct. 8, 2019

i just did make one vm instance Ubuntu 18.04 on google compute engine. barely i did install postfix at there. hmm if possible, i wish to run mailing service for my family and me -- it needs a little bit some comunication plus some records about family history. yes i want GNU Mailman very much!!! google compute engine blocked port 25 by default. in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...? Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea. -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29
by Fabian Aldo Santiago June 6, 2019

June 6, 2019

Hello all, I have my postfix mail server running mm 2.1.26 installed via apt on Ubuntu 18.04. I wish to upgrade to 2.1.29 but it’s not in the official repos. I tried installing from source, after first running mailman-config to gather the configure parameters (thanks Lindsay!). It installed no sweat BUT failed to start afterwards. It kept complaining of a pid file being unreadable. So I started over (restored snapshot) and then tried adding a ppa apt source which contains 2.1.29: https://launchpad.net/~mailman-administrivia/+archive/ubuntu/ppa Installed with an IO error over a lock file purported to be from one of my lists but otherwise started ok. But sending an email produced an error complaining: The mail system <list@localhost>: Command died with status 2: "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "list". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=list'. So that gid is what I used when I tried from source. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks. -- Fabian S. OpenPGP: 0xA1250C2112D2D0E53E5BD964BBB5B16CFB701CD7 Quick link to shared public key: https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBBB5B16CFB701CD7

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Migrated Mailman to another server
by Ryan McClung June 3, 2019

June 3, 2019

Greetings, Migrated mailman to another server and updated it. Site Admin can see the pending queue on all lists but the lists owners/administrators cannot. Running Centos7 and current build of mailman. (2.1.15) Lists have been migrated and are functioning properly. Permissions fix finds nothing. Any help appreciated. -- Ryan McClung Systems Administrator @ Afilias Canada A. 204-4141 Yonge Street, Toronto, ON, Canada, M2P 2A8 <https://maps.google.com/?q=4141+Yonge+Street,+Toronto,+ON,+Canada,+M2P+2A8&…> W. www.afilias.info T. +1.416.646.3304 x4186

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Easy question for this crowd
by Chip Davis June 2, 2019

June 2, 2019

I've supported a dozen Mailman listservers for over a dozen years. This doesn't represent much real effort most of the time. I've had to block specific users often and specific domains rarely, but this is the first time I've had to block an entire TLD. Recently I've been gifted with an inordinate amount of UCE from many different domains under the '.icu' TLD. Since Python RE's are _almost_ the same as the UNIX RE's I used many years ago, if I put ^@.*\.icu$ in discard_these_nonmembers, will it block all domains in that TLD? And not block anyone else? Thanks, -Chip Davis- Mailman 2.1.27 shared host linux 2.6.32-696.18.7.el6.x86_64 cPanel 80.0.10

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question about email automation
by Fabian A. Santiago June 1, 2019

June 1, 2019

Hello, this is unrelated to using mm itself but was wondering if anyone here had any insight they could share; i run a mailing list on mm 2.x. periodically i send out an event opening email to the list. this is typically followed by a conclusion email at the end of a specific period. in the interim period i would like to send out reminders of the event to the list but would like to automate this task. i want the reminders to be triggered by my opening email and end with my conclusion email. has anyone done this and how? i've looked at ifttt and zapier but wasn't sure. thanks. -- Fabian S. OpenPGP: 0xA1250C2112D2D0E53E5BD964BBB5B16CFB701CD7

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Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?
by Till Dörges May 31, 2019

May 31, 2019

Hello all, we're using mailman-2.1.29 to operate a list where all users are moderated. The MTA used is postfix 3.2.0. Generally everything seems to be working fine. I.e. when I send out an e-mail I have several confirmations that it arrives under the addresses subscribed to the list. However, (at least) for one user the e-mail does not arrive. And I would at least like to find out the reason. But there's no trace of the address in any of the logfiles that should hold an entry (see below). Generally I'm able to send messages using my MUA to the corresponding e-mail address using the very same postfix also delivering the mailman messages. So I'm guessing it's nothing like DMARC problems or the likes. Like I said, what really puzzles me is that I cannot find the address in either /var/log/mail (postfix) or /var/lib/mailman/logs/* (mailman) /var/lib/mailman/logs/error doesn't contain any entries. /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounce does contain some addresses with a bounce score of 1.0 which are for /other/ e-mail addresses also subscribed to the list in question. /var/log/mail contains entries for /some/ of the addresses subscribed (including some bounces), but *not* for all. /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp gives me a log entry with the original messages and claims to have sent it to 416 recips (which is correct). But overall I'm only able to find roughly half in either /var/log/mail or /var/lib/mailman/logs/*. Why are not all 416 addresses listed in /var/log/mail, assuming that mailman handed 416 mails to postfix? Do I have any chance of finding out what happened to the mails to the addresses which don't appear in any of the log files? Any hints/insights are greatly appreciated! Thanks -- Till -- PRESENSE Technologies GmbH Sachsenstr. 5, D-20097 HH Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors AG Hamburg, HRB 107844 Till Dörges, Jürgen Sander USt-IdNr.: DE263765024 Wir sind wieder auf dem BSI IT-Sicherheitskongress 21.-23. Mai 2019 – Bonn

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Migrating to a new server with upgraded mailman, should I copy qfiles ?
by Ian Kelling May 29, 2019

May 29, 2019

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20move%20a%20list%20to%20a%20differe…. The linked examples don't show copying the qfiles directory. I'm migrating a very busy server (lists.gnu.org), that always has lots of queue files in the qfiles directory. Shouldn't I copy that directory over too after shutting down mailman? -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org

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DMARC message wrapping not working
by Matthew Pounsett May 21, 2019

May 21, 2019

I've got a mailman 2.1.26 install I've taken over. I've attempted to turn on DMARC message wrapping by setting DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACTION in my mm_cfg.py file, but it doesn't seem to have had the desired effect. I'm still seeing messages from p=reject domains going out with their original headers, and subscribers being blocked as a result of the bounces. These are the (non-comment) contents of my mm_cfg.py, with the mail domain anonymized: from Defaults import * DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.example.com' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost('lists.example.com', 'lists.example.com') DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACTION = 2 The docs say this sets a minimum bar for the per-list configurations, but when I go to look at those they're all still set to 0/Accept, and in the web UI the full range of options is still available. There is a distinct possibility I've got my hands on the wrong config file. This install isn't using the version from the system package manager.. it's a manually compiled install that looks like it has an install prefix of /usr/local/mailman. This file is /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. I don't see an obvious way to get mailman to spit out the full path it's actually checking for the file, but the output of mailman-config suggests it's probably looking in the right place. % ./mailman-config -h Configuration and build information for Mailman Mailman version: 2.1.26 Build Date: Wed May 2 13:10:19 UTC 2018 prefix: /usr/local/mailman var_prefix: /usr/local/mailman mailman_user: mailman mailman_group: mailman mail_group: mail cgi_group: www-data configure_opts: "--with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=www-data" I see no mention of mm_cfg.py in the mailman logs.. so nothing clearly indicating it's failing to find the file (nor positive feedback that it has found the file). But I'm not convinced that's the problem anyway, since mailman clearly is picking up the virtual host and list URL settings. Any suggestions for what else I should be looking at to get Mailman to pick up this config change? Thanks!

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