Mailman 3 June 2019 - Mailman-Users

Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!
by Jayson Smith Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Hi, This is a weird one. I think of myself as knowing my way around Mailman pretty well for a user/admin/installer/upgrader. I'm upgrading to a Debian 9 system from CentOS 6.5. Debian's Apache configs took a bit of getting used to, but I actually like them better. It uses Apache 2.4.2. I wanted to install Mailman from source, since the latest version is 2.1.26, Debian has 2.1.23, and IIRC that's too old to have some screen reader optimizations I want. So I built, installed, all working well. I copied over the Mailman config from my CentOS system to use in Apache, making some changes so it'd work under 2.4.2. Here it is: -------------------- # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Require all granted </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted AddDefaultCharset Off </Directory> # Uncomment the following line, to redirect queries to /mailman to the # listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo -------------------- The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to /mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me, with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache 2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something else changed between Apache versions? Thanks, Jayson

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mailman on google comput engine
by 황병희 Oct. 8, 2019

Oct. 8, 2019

i just did make one vm instance Ubuntu 18.04 on google compute engine. barely i did install postfix at there. hmm if possible, i wish to run mailing service for my family and me -- it needs a little bit some comunication plus some records about family history. yes i want GNU Mailman very much!!! google compute engine blocked port 25 by default. in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...? Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea. -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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how did spam message get through a moderated list?
by Aleksandr Miroslav June 27, 2019

June 27, 2019

Recently a spam message came in to four lists I administer. The email was writtenlike this: firstmlast <user(a)example.com>. I recognized the real name, because First M. Last, is someone I know and is subscribed to all the lists. However, the "user(a)example.com" was totally foreign. So spam. Three of the lists automatically discarded the email, as I have configured them to do, and sent me an notification about it. But the fourth list sent it through, even though user(a)example.com was not subscribed to the list, and I have generic_nonmember_action set to Discard. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how/why this email got through. I have set the list to emergency moderation for now, but I'd like to know how it got through in the first place. I did a config dump and vimdiff across the 3 lists, apart from the list names, signatures, and two minor fields (max_num_recipients, and admin_member_chunksize), they are all identical. In, /usr/local/mailman/logs/post, I see this for the message: Jun 26 03:48:40 2019 (1052) post to listname from user(a)example.com, size=6065, message-id <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxxxx>, success For the other 3 lists, I see this in /usr/local/mailman/logs/vette: Jun 26 03:48:31 2019 (1050) Message discarded, msgid: <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxxxx>' list: list1, handler: Moderate Jun 26 03:48:51 2019 (1050) Message discarded, msgid: <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxxxx>' list: list2, handler: Moderate Jun 26 03:50:22 2019 (1050) Message discarded, msgid: <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxxxx>' list: list3, handler: Moderate Does anyone know why the message to the fourth list went through?

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How long will Mailman version 2 be supported for?
by Steven Jones June 21, 2019

June 21, 2019

thanks regards. Steven

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binary instead of html
by Nina Macdonald June 18, 2019

June 18, 2019

I have one listserv subscriber, who is signed up for the regular (not digest) version. He has been intermittently getting these odd versions of messages. When he gets this format, he does not get the regular html version. Most of the messages come through just fine. I have a number of other ones he has sent me if you need to see them. I also have 9 other subscribers on me.com, whom I have not gotten complaints from. Thanks, Nina Macdonald -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Fwd: yet another Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:50:37 -0700 From: George Lang <georgelang3(a)me.com> To: webmaster(a)unihills.org And no normal from Lisa Crummet Begin forwarded message: > *From:* uhills-bounces(a)unihills.org <mailto:uhills-bounces@unihills.org> > *Date:* June 16, 2019 at 13:40:06 PDT > *To:* uhills(a)unihills.org <mailto:uhills@unihills.org> > > Content analysis details: (-2.1 points, 3.0 required) > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% > [score: 0.0000] > 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail > provider (lisacrummett[at]gmail.com > <http://gmail.com>) > -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record > -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from > author's domain > -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK > signature > -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from > envelope-from domain > 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not > necessarily > valid > X-Spam-Flag: NO > Subject: [Uhills] Free toys at 79 Murasaki > X-BeenThere: uhills(a)unihills.org <mailto:uhills@unihills.org> > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 > Precedence: list > List-Id: UHills Community Announcements and Posts by Residents > <uhills.unihills.org <http://uhills.unihills.org>> > List-Unsubscribe: > <https://unihills.org/mailman/options/uhills_unihills.org>, > <mailto:uhills-request@unihills.org?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <https://unihills.org/mailman/private/uhills_unihills.org/> > List-Post: <mailto:uhills@unihills.org> > List-Help: <mailto:uhills-request@unihills.org?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: > <https://unihills.org/mailman/listinfo/uhills_unihills.org>, > <mailto:uhills-request@unihills.org?subject=subscribe> > From: Lisa Crummett via Uhills <uhills(a)unihills.org > <mailto:uhills@unihills.org>> > Reply-To: Lisa Crummett <lisacrummett(a)gmail.com > <mailto:lisacrummett@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Errors-To: uhills-bounces(a)unihills.org > <mailto:uhills-bounces@unihills.org> > Sender: "Uhills" <uhills-bounces(a)unihills.org > <mailto:uhills-bounces@unihills.org>> > X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 > X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it > with any abuse report > X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host3.pixelloom.net > <http://host3.pixelloom.net> > X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - me.com <http://me.com> > X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] > X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - unihills.org <http://unihills.org> > X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host3.pixelloom.net > <http://host3.pixelloom.net>: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: > mailman/mailman > X-Authenticated-Sender: host3.pixelloom.net > <http://host3.pixelloom.net>: mailman(a)unihills.org > <mailto:mailman@unihills.org> > X-MANTSH: 1TEIXR1kbG1oaGkNHB1tfTFwbGhsbGxMaGxEKTEMXGxoEGxsYBBsbGgQeGRAbHho > fGhEKTFkXGBsbEQpZTRdkRURPEQpZSRcacRoQGncGGxMbcRscGhAbdwYYGgYaEQpZXhdobnkRC > kNOF0ZLGW1aSxtDUxNwcwFOY0Bucl9vQ0tQa3tbaxh7Wmt/EQpYXBcZBBoEHhoHTBtPSRISGEg > FGxoEEwQbEgQYGhoQGx4aHxoRCl5ZF396bxlhEQpNXBcbHRoRCkxaF2xtXU1SEQpMRhdFa2sRC > kNaFx0YBB8YBBsfHAQbEhIRCkJeFxsRCkRYFx0RCkJGF2diQxJHSH9NfGVkEQpCRxduW3ofT2R > 6UhlEZREKQkUXZWJzW2NNbXtoXRgRCkJOF2Jma0doUGR+YHlOEQpCTBdlRWQaaF9QfGJ9cBEKQ > mwXYm9lfRp4bnhTek4RCkJAF25EXl1+Gh9MGmQcEQpNXhcbEQpwZxdlU0RYHWJzW1xSTRAZGhE > KcGgXZB5wYHsaTx9JHG4QGRoRCnBoF3p9c2NgbE5TZxJMEBkaEQpwaBdmQHBdbkZTWFodRBAZG > hEKcGgXbF9BbWNSfR9gGWsQGRoRCnB/F2sea0xcQE9eG0dCEB4SEQpwXxdjSW9sUmAecxp/ZxA > eEhEKcH0XYEhDHxgbZ3tNT1oQHhIRCnB/F2RrSUtQGnlOXFNoEAcbGx0RCnBfF2ZuYGJwRBtnT > 2RNEB4SEQpwfRdlHhJeekhOAUNucxAeEhEKcGwXemYaWhITG39zZgEQGRoRCnBDF2J+SEtBfkU > eeGltEBkaEQptfhcbEQpYTRdLEQ== > X-CLX-Shades: None > X-CLX-UShades: None > X-CLX-Score: 211 > X-CLX-UnSpecialScore: None > X-CLX-Spam: false > X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, > definitions=2019-06-16_09:,, > signatures=0 > X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 > suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 > phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=211 mlxscore=0 > mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx > scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1906160198 > > V2UganVzdCBjbGVhbmVkIG91dCBteSBkYXVnaHRlcuKAmXMgcm9vbSBhbmQgd2UgaGF2ZSBsb3Rz > IG9mIGdvb2QgdG95cyB0byBnaXZlIGF3YXkuLi4gc3R1ZmZlZCBhbmltYWxzIHRoYXQgYXJlIGxp > a2UgbmV3LCBNeSBMaXR0bGUgUG9ueSBmaWd1cmVzIGFuZCBhY2Nlc3NvcmllcyAobGFyZ2UgYW5k > IHNtYWxsKSwgYW5kIHRpbnkgcHJpbmNlc3MgZmlndXJlcyB3aXRoIHNuYXAgb24gZHJlc3Nlcy4g > QWxsIG9uIG91ciBmcm9udCBwb3JjaC4gCgpDaGVlcnMsCkxpc2EgCgpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgaVBo > b25lCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fClVoaWxs > cyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKVWhpbGxzQHVuaWhpbGxzLm9yZwpodHRwczovL3VuaWhpbGxzLm9yZy9t > YWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3VoaWxsc191bmloaWxscy5vcmcKTm90ZTogUG9zdHMgb3ZlciAxIE1C > IHdpbGwgYmUgcmVqZWN0ZWQuCkdvIGhlcmUgdG8gcmVzaXplOiBodHRwczovL2dvby5nbC9LOFpa > QUcK

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Could Mailman apply "munge from" in less cases?
by Ian Kelling June 18, 2019

June 18, 2019

For example, "munge from" is applied only to messages from domains that publish a DMARC policy of 'reject' or 'quarantine'. However, if the message mailman is sending has a valid DKIM signature because there is no footer or subject prefix and no other edge cases, there is no reason to munge, because it will pass the DMARC check. It seems Mailman could do that. Or, if not, could it seems the MTA could do this checking and munging. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org

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What to do about SPF rejection?
by Johannes Rohr June 17, 2019

June 17, 2019

Dear all, I today saw three bounces where the receiving mail server had said: host mail.gfbv.de[185.199.217.16] said: 550 external MTA sending our header From: XXXX <XXX(a)gfbv.de> (in reply to end of DATA command) The SPF record for gfbv.de is gfbv.de. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx a:epicmail1.newsaktuell.net ~all" I am not sure, whether mailman 2 has any workaround for this like for the DMARC issue Can anyone spot, whether there is something wrong with the SPF record? Whose fault is it? My mailman instance has its own spf record: lists.ilo169.de. 9531 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx a ip4:5.9.62.175 ~all" I am not familiar with the spf syntax, so I can't tell whether it is our fault or theirs. At first glace, it would look to me as if the solution would be similar to the DMARC workaround, that is to swap the original From: address with the list address. But again, mailman offers this option only for DMARC issues. Does anyone have advice for me? Thanks so much in advance, Johannes

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Web interfece doen't work correctly
by Peter June 17, 2019

June 17, 2019

Hi there, Mailman is working well here. Received, send and archive emails as ik has to be. Via web interface (Apache2.4) I can add/remove users But the only that not can be done is authorization/reject emails that are not belong to a list member. I do received the authorization email, click on the link and I got the correct page. Select what to do and click submit all data. Then nothing happens :-( I'am using version 2.1.23 on a Debian9 system Peter

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using hash for aliases. distribution email bounced back with errors
by Christian Stalberg June 15, 2019

June 15, 2019

Installing mailman 2.1.20 on a working postfix-dovecot-mysql mail server. Trying to use hash for Mailman aliases. In /etc/postfix/main.cf, I have alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases I ran 'newlist mailman at command line.' This is the aliases file contents. # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the # binary hash file aliases.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly # in sync. If you screw it up, you're on your own. # The ultimate loop stopper address mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Fri Jun 14 13:09:26 2019 mailman: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" # STANZA END: mailman I ran bin/genaliases. I then subscribed some email addresses to the mailman list and sent a test distribution email which was bounced back with errors as follows: This is the mail system at host naturalintelligence.us. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us> (expanded from <mailman(a)lists.naturalintelligence.us>): host naturalintelligence.us[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1 <mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us> User doesn't exist: mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us (in reply to RCPT TO command) <post(a)naturalintelligence.us> (expanded from <mailman(a)lists.naturalintelligence.us>): host naturalintelligence.us[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1 <post(a)naturalintelligence.us> User doesn't exist: post(a)naturalintelligence.us (in reply to RCPT TO command) <|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us> (expanded from <mailman(a)lists.naturalintelligence.us>): host naturalintelligence.us[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1 <|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us> User doesn't exist: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman(a)naturalintelligence.us (in reply to RCPT TO command) that have I done wrong please? thank you in advance. Christian

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