Mailman 3 August 2019 - Mailman-Users

Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!
by Jayson Smith Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

Hi, This is a weird one. I think of myself as knowing my way around Mailman pretty well for a user/admin/installer/upgrader. I'm upgrading to a Debian 9 system from CentOS 6.5. Debian's Apache configs took a bit of getting used to, but I actually like them better. It uses Apache 2.4.2. I wanted to install Mailman from source, since the latest version is 2.1.26, Debian has 2.1.23, and IIRC that's too old to have some screen reader optimizations I want. So I built, installed, all working well. I copied over the Mailman config from my CentOS system to use in Apache, making some changes so it'd work under 2.4.2. Here it is: -------------------- # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Require all granted </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted AddDefaultCharset Off </Directory> # Uncomment the following line, to redirect queries to /mailman to the # listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo -------------------- The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to /mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me, with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache 2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something else changed between Apache versions? Thanks, Jayson

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mailman on google comput engine
by 황병희 Oct. 8, 2019

Oct. 8, 2019

i just did make one vm instance Ubuntu 18.04 on google compute engine. barely i did install postfix at there. hmm if possible, i wish to run mailing service for my family and me -- it needs a little bit some comunication plus some records about family history. yes i want GNU Mailman very much!!! google compute engine blocked port 25 by default. in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...? Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea. -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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Patch against mm2.1 which adds sync_members functionality to the GUI
by Ralf Hildebrandt Sept. 17, 2019

Sept. 17, 2019

attached are two patches against mm2.1 which add sync_members functionality to the GUI -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin https://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155

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Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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Mailman errors
by Bill Richards Aug. 26, 2019

Aug. 26, 2019

Earlier this month I email this list with issues I've had approving/discard messages via the web interface (see below). After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman When looking through the smtp-failure log I noticed errors "Sender address rejected: Domain not found" and it appears something has or is appending the text "new-" to the beginning of the domain we use. Further investigation shows that "new-" is appended to the domain in the config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety files. I have no idea how this got into the files but it appears to me the source of problem. I have reviewed the configuration of mailman via the administrative web interface and it all appears correct (no arbitrary "new-" text) . This is not a new installation of mailman and has been in use for many years. This issue seemed to have started occurring in July of this year. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Richards mailman version 2.1.12 Previous message: ===================================================== A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or discarding messages. I am also unable to add/delete users to the list but messages from approved list members work fine. I suspect either some file has become corrupted or a permissions issue. I also see entries such as the following in the errors logs: Aug 04 06:47:41 2019 (20501) No such list "aewa<[55": Aug 04 11:05:13 2019 (28708) No such list "aewa<https:": I have run check_perms with no problems found. Has anyone see this before or can suggest a solution?

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Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?
by Robert Heller Aug. 24, 2019

Aug. 24, 2019

Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for private archives with Mailman version 2.1.16? There is no obvious setting for it. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services

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how to test template customization
by Russell Clemings Aug. 20, 2019

Aug. 20, 2019

I'm trying to customize cronpass.txt. (I understand that it needs to go in templates/site/en/cronpass.txt.) I think I've got it basically figured out, but I'd like to test it before we get to the end of the month and a couple thousand possibly messed-up monthly password reminders go out. Is there a way to test it, e.g. sending a copy just to myself? I couldn't find anything on this point in the archives.

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Editing the options page shown to you when you are not logged in
by Flo Aug. 20, 2019

Aug. 20, 2019

Dear all, I want to adapt the member options page when I am *not* logged in. For example: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/debianflo%40gmx.at The 'Edit the public HTML pages and text files' option at the admin interface only contains a possibility to adapt the option page for members who are already logged in. How can I adapt the page I described first? Thank you for any help. Flo. PS: I am using 2.1.19

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Acknowledging sender when moderated message is accepted
by David Pane Aug. 16, 2019

Aug. 16, 2019

I administer a mailman (version 2.1.15) server (CentOS 7) which contain 40-50 lists (including umbrella lists). When a sender's email is held for moderation, we would like to acknowledge the sender when that post is "Accepted" by the moderator in a similar fashion as we do when the moderator "Rejects" a message (default message with ability to customize). This will avoid the user wondering if the email was sent out to the list. The acknowledge option gets us part of the way, but I could not find a way to acknowledge non-members who post to a list. It is common for a non-member to send legitimate email to our lists (e.g. faculty member sending to student lists). I believe there will also be an issue with receiving acknowledgements from one of the individual list member of an umbrella list since they are not treated as an ordinary users thus they cannot set the acknowledge option flag for that list. I have tried using the setting "Receive your own posts to the list?" set it to "Yes" and the server logs show an email is being sent, the email provider's duplicate suppression renders the user not actually seeing that email come into their inbox. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you, David

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Finding list user in redacted FBL reports
by Scott Neader Aug. 14, 2019

Aug. 14, 2019

Hi all! I have a list member with a comcast.net email address that is marking most every list message as spam. I have Personalization enabled, and have the subscriber's email address in the footer, but Comcast redacts the email address. Unfortunately, there are quite a few comcast.net users on this list, making this really difficult to find the offender. I've read through the Mailman Users archives and have seen others with this problem, and it seems some of you have come up with your own creative solutions, but no solutions have been posted, hence my request here. Do any of you have any ideas for me to identify this serial 'mark-as-spammer'? Could I hack something together temporarily that would put maybe the first few characters of their email in the footer? (so that Comcast won't sense it as an email and won't redact it?) Other ideas? Thank you in advance! - Scott

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