Mailman 3 August 2019 - Mailman-Users

Fwd: Mailman errors
by Bill Richards Aug. 13, 2019

Aug. 13, 2019

A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or discarding messages. I am also unable to add/delete users to the list but messages from approved list members work fine. I suspect either some file has become corrupted or a permissions issue. I also see entries such as the following in the errors logs: Aug 04 06:47:41 2019 (20501) No such list "aewa<[55": Aug 04 11:05:13 2019 (28708) No such list "aewa<https:": I have run check_perms with no problems found. Has anyone see this before or can suggest a solution? TIA Bill

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no bounce message with bad address
by Loren Engrav Aug. 12, 2019

Aug. 12, 2019

sometimes I load an invalid address (invalid name but valid domain) like xyz(a)whidbey.com; whidbey.com is ok but there is no xyz with Mailman 2.1.26 at site5.com and 2.1.29 at mailmanlists.net I do not receive a bounce message is this a Mailman issue, host issue, domain issue? or? thanks

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help
by Mark Graves Aug. 9, 2019

Aug. 9, 2019

help

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Need assistance configuring Mailman version 2.1.15 on RHEL7
by Mr. Vishal Gandhi Aug. 9, 2019

Aug. 9, 2019

We installed Mailman version 2.1.15 on RHEL7 using yum. We don't want mailing lists' email addresses with the same domain as the server has. For example: server is example1.fdu.edu . We would like to have email addresses of the mailing lists to end with @fdu.edu so that someone sends email to list1(a)fdu.edu and the subscribers of the the mailing list list1 will receive it. Can some one please provide us some guidance on how can we accomplish this? We'll appreciate any help or guidance we may receive. Thank you. [cid:13406a9c-956f-451f-81fb-25a62f375a6c] Vishal K. Gandhi Systems Analyst/Application Developer/E-Mail Specialist University Systems and Networking 1000 River Road, Teaneck NJ 07666 Mail Stop: T-BH1-01 [phone]: 201-692-2414 | [fax] : 201-692-2494 | [email] : vgandhi(a)fdu.edu<mailto:vgandhi@fdu.edu> "Fairleigh Dickinson University will never ask for your password. Please do not share it with others!"

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Mailman eats this message. Why?
by Brett Delmage Aug. 9, 2019

Aug. 9, 2019

I've been having trouble with one subscriber whose content was always stripped. After changing a Content filtering flag and discovering that lynx was not installed, my tests of my own multipart html + text, and html-only messages indicated I had finally had Mailman correctly configured, or so it seemed. I got content in both cases. But a test message from this user appears to have been eaten by MM. Postfix shows delivery to the MM list alias and that's where it ends. MM logs nothing for this message in any log and it is not posted. Using Mailman version: 2.1.29 I have included the Content filtering section from bin/config_list and a stripped-down version of the message that went AWOL with content and headers that are of potential interest. I'd welcome any suggestions or requests for more info or next debugging steps as may be appropriate. Thank you! Brett p.s. forget asking this user to send multipart including text. Some users are just incapable of that. But if I have to inform him that his HTML-only messages as sent will never get through MM, that's ok. lost message: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 15:14:23 -0400 (EDT) ... Message-ID: <566705347.6949993.1564600463102.JavaMail.open-xchange@mtlgui02> Subject: Re: Please help us test the new freelance email list server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.1-Rev29 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"><html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> </head><body> Hi Brett:  Would be great to participate in the discussions on the list. thanks <blockquote type="cite"> ---------- Original Message ---------- ... </blockquote> > </body></html> --------------- excerpt of config_list -o: filter_content = 1 filter_mime_types = '' pass_mime_types = """multipart/mixed multipart/alternative multipart message/rfc822 text/plain text/html""" filter_filename_extensions = """exe bat cmd com pif scr vbs cpl pdf zip doc rtf xls vcf""" pass_filename_extensions = '' collapse_alternatives = True convert_html_to_plaintext = True filter_action = 3

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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook
by Loren Engrav Aug. 3, 2019

Aug. 3, 2019

Ok Site5 and U Washington seem to be unable / unwilling to fix so I tried mailmanlists.net from your link there, messages to yahoo and aol pass fine so as you say, probably time to change providers and, to boot, mailmanlists.net is cheaper thanks > On Aug 1, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull <turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > Loren Engrav writes: > >> does anyone know of a Mailman host that successfully sends to yahoo >> and aol addresses? > > Many do. > > Your problem is very unlikely to have anything to do with Mailman. As > Mark points out, the status message says the connection is dropped > abruptly at RCPT TO, so at that point the Yahoo/AOL server knows the > following things: > > 1. Your Mailman host's IP address, > 2. The domain name that your host claims > 3. The "envelope return address", which is normally the address of > the author of the post (for your test messages, that's you) > 4. The addressees you're trying to deliver to. > > 4 is extremely unlikely to be the problem, as long as they're real > addresses at those hosts (providers don't keep users very long if they > refuse all mail to them!), and even if one is nonexistent, usually you > get a failure for that address, but the others go through. You could > try confirming that those addresses exist; if you have a pile of > non-existent addresses, the receiving server might decide you're a > spammer. However, most likely all (or 99%) of your addresses are > valid, and as Mark suggested the receiving server is willing to > deliver to certain administrative addresses such as "postmaster" and > "abuse", but discards all others. > > 3 is not very likely unless you personally have offended Yahoo! quite > severely so your tests don't go through, and of course any messages > from others wouldn't be affected by your personal reputation. > > It's theoretically possible that a mismatch between 1 and 2 is the > problem, although you say you've got your server correctly configured. > The theoretical problem is that if looking up the IP address doesn't > give the domain or vice versa, some hosts will refuse mail. But those > hosts normally do that immediately without waiting for your envelope > (the return address and the recipients). So this also is extremely > unlikely to be the problem. > > So it looks like 1 or 2, i.e., the identity of your host, is the > problem. That is, either that domain or the IP address it is using > has been abusive in the past (spamming, phishing, DoS attacks, etc), > and the reputation has not been rehabilitated. > > There's not much we can do to help, because it's a host configuration > problem or reputation problem. I hate to say this because list admins > hate to hear it, but you are dependent on your hosting provider. If > they can't help you, your only good option is to switch providers. > Here is a page with several pointers to providers of Mailman hosting: > > https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services > > Here's another with pointers to other pages with information about a > variety of providers and related services: > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Do%20you%20offer%20Mailman%20hosting%2C%20consult… >

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messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook
by Loren Engrav Aug. 1, 2019

Aug. 1, 2019

Greetings I use Mailman (2.1.26) at Site5.com. Several of the member addresses are @yahoo.com @aol.com and @outlook.com. Messages to these address bounce and fail and / or just fail. Messages to other addresses pass. The latest notice(s) are summarized below. Site5 people cannot seem to fix this. Any advice for me / Site5? (I am not expert at this) Thank you Loren Engrav =================== his is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: testwg Member: engravosaurusrex(a)aol.com <mailto:engravosaurusrex@aol.com> Action: Subscription disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)gateway1.unifiedlayer.com <mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway1.unifiedlayer.com> (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: July 27, 2019 at 9:38:57 PM PDT To: testwg-bounces(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-bounces@engrav.mobi> This is the mail system at host gateway1.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway1.unifiedlayer.com/>. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <engravosaurusrex(a)aol.com <mailto:engravosaurusrex@aol.com>>: delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net <http://mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net/>[98.136.101.116] while sending RCPT TO Reporting-MTA: dns; gateway1.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway1.unifiedlayer.com/> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 47C7320078818 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; testwg-bounces(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-bounces@engrav.mobi> Arrival-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:13:17 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; engravosaurusrex(a)aol.com <mailto:engravosaurusrex@aol.com> Original-Recipient: rfc822;engravosaurusrex(a)aol.com <mailto:engravosaurusrex@aol.com> Action: failed Status: 4.4.2 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net <http://mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net/>[98.136.101.116] while sending RCPT TO From: testwg-request(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-request@engrav.mobi> Subject: confirm 29e587acb271cfb11cfadd8ca325f3ffa9bd2fca Date: July 27, 2019 at 7:13:15 PM PDT To: engravosaurusrex(a)aol.com <mailto:engravosaurusrex@aol.com> Your membership in the mailing list testwg has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 27-Jul-2019. If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at testwg-owner(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-owner@engrav.mobi> ======================== This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: testwg Member: engravosaurus(a)yahoo.com <mailto:engravosaurus@yahoo.com> Action: Subscription disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at mailman(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:mailman@engrav.mobi>. From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)gateway13.unifiedlayer.com <mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway13.unifiedlayer.com> (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: July 27, 2019 at 10:19:15 PM PDT To: testwg-bounces(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-bounces@engrav.mobi> This is the mail system at host gateway13.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway13.unifiedlayer.com/>. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <engravosaurus(a)yahoo.com <mailto:engravosaurus@yahoo.com>>: delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with mta5.am0.yahoodns.net <http://mta5.am0.yahoodns.net/>[98.137.159.24] while sending RCPT TO Reporting-MTA: dns; gateway13.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway13.unifiedlayer.com/> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 598BC200A4FF9 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; testwg-bounces(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg-bounces@engrav.mobi> Arrival-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:53:54 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; engravosaurus(a)yahoo.com <mailto:engravosaurus@yahoo.com> Original-Recipient: rfc822;engravosaurus(a)yahoo.com <mailto:engravosaurus@yahoo.com> Action: failed Status: 4.4.2 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with mta5.am0.yahoodns.net <http://mta5.am0.yahoodns.net/>[98.137.159.24] while sending RCPT TO From: Loren Engrav <engrav(a)mac.com <mailto:engrav@mac.com>> Subject: [testwg] 7:53 [#NAC-143-22422]: Email bounceback [uscentral427.accountservergroup.com <http://uscentral427.accountservergroup.com/>] Date: July 27, 2019 at 7:53:36 PM PDT To: testwg(a)engrav.mobi <mailto:testwg@engrav.mobi>

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