Mailman 3 November 2020 - Mailman-Users

Fwd: Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
by Tom Corcoran 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 10:49, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users < mailman-users(a)python.org> wrote: > Hello Tom Corcoran. On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:22:45 +0000, you wrote: > > > Thanks, Christian! I set up the forwarders and deleted the mailing > > lists! So much unnecessary pain over the years! > > Ah - you had a mailinglist with the same name as the mail address to be > forwarded. Possible that this does not work. > No, I never had the clash, I just added the forwarders this morning. The pain I had over the years was the mailing lists archiving and consequently me running out of my allotted space. All good now, I think, thanks!

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Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
by Christian Buser 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Hello Tom Corcoran. On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:22:45 +0000, you wrote: > Thanks, Christian! I set up the forwarders and deleted the mailing > lists! So much unnecessary pain over the years! Ah - you had a mailinglist with the same name as the mail address to be forwarded. Possible that this does not work. Good to hear that it works now. Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: https://www.chance-for-children.org

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Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
by Tom Corcoran 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill. I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is: https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails and.or pdf newsletters. I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc. It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a little bizarre and silly imho. Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list? Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see. As always, thanks for yer paitence. Tom.

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Don't moderate any senders from a specific domain
by Andy Cravens 09 Nov '20

09 Nov '20

I have a list running on Mailman 2.1.26. For this list I want everybody moderated except for people who’s email address is from a specific domain. Is there a way to specify a domain that will bypass moderation? What I plan on doing right now is to manually check or uncheck the “mod” checkbox for all individual subscribers as needed. The problem is that manual intervention is required to make sure new subscriptions are configured with the correct “mod” setting. I want to avoid the manual intervention. Under the Sender Filters section there is a setting for Non-member filters that allows you to specify a regex for accept_these_nonmembers. There is no such regex for members to automatically accept their posts. If there were such an option I would set emergency moderation of the list and then set the regex for the desired domain. Unless I can find a place to set a regex for a domain to automatically accept posts from members, I will stick to manually setting the “mod” checkbox for all members.

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Re: no action on subscription requests
by Mark Sapiro 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

On 11/8/20 3:38 PM, H Ian Zhang wrote: > > I'll ask the provider to make the logs available to me - unfortunately this list is on a shared server, and I have no control over the software itself. In that case, the issue will almost certainly need to be resolved by the hosting provider. Depending on the provider, this may be anywhere from easy to impossible. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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no action on subscription requests
by H Ian Zhang 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

A mailing list that is still in the test phase has stopped processing subscription requests. The subscription setting is at a minimum set to "confirm" but at times we have been using "confirm and approve". The mailman version is 2.1.33 Initially "no response to subscription requests" seemed to happen with addresses that had been previously been subscribed but later unsubscribed (as part of the testing process), but now there is no response to any subscription request either by mail or via the signup page. I found a related problem description from 2009 in the archives on the web, but the bug at that time was fixed, and I suspect that our problem is something altogether different. Awaiting further questions and possible advice - thanks in advance! Ian Zhang --

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Problem with SPF, DKIM or Mailman-DMARC settings
by Kala Balik 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

Dear Mailman-Users, I have a Mailman instance running on a vServer with Plesk, but am using email services from my provider (different IP and MX-Domain than the Mailman machine). Emails in the format name(a)domain.tld generally seem to work. However, when I send an email from the same adress to one of my Mailman lists at subdomain.domain.tld, I get many bouncees who will eventually be removed from the list. My question is: What is wrong here, my SPF or DKIM settings OR my Mailman-DMARC settings? My Mailman-DMARC settings are the following: from_is_list: No anonymous_list: No dmarc_moderation_action: Munge from dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action: Yes dmarc_none_moderation_action: No From Google I received reports of which the following XML is a clipping: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?> <feedback> <report_metadata> <org_name>google.com</org_name> <email>noreply-dmarc-support(a)google.com</email> ... </report_metadata> <policy_published> <domain>subdomain.domain.tld</domain> <adkim>r</adkim> <aspf>r</aspf> <p>reject</p> <sp>reject</sp> <pct>100</pct> </policy_published> <record> <row> <source_ip>123.456.78.90</source_ip> <count>1</count> <policy_evaluated> <disposition>quarantine</disposition> <dkim>fail</dkim> <spf>fail</spf> <reason> <type>forwarded</type> <comment>looks forwarded, downgrade to quarantine with phishing warning</comment> </reason> </policy_evaluated> </row> <identifiers> <header_from>subdomain.domain.tld</header_from> </identifiers> <auth_results> <dkim> <domain>subdomain.domain.tld</domain> <result>fail</result> <selector>default</selector> </dkim> <spf> <domain>subdomain.domain.tld</domain> <result>softfail</result> </spf> </auth_results> </record> <record> <row> <source_ip>123.456.789.0</source_ip> <count>1</count> <policy_evaluated> <disposition>quarantine</disposition> <dkim>fail</dkim> <spf>fail</spf> <reason> <type>forwarded</type> <comment>looks forwarded, downgrade to quarantine with phishing warning</comment> </reason> </policy_evaluated> </row> <identifiers> <header_from>subdomain.domain.tld</header_from> </identifiers> <auth_results> <dkim> <domain>subdomain.domain.tld</domain> <result>fail</result> <selector>default</selector> </dkim> <spf> <domain>some.random.domain.name</domain> <result>pass</result> </spf> </auth_results> </record> Thanks for your help! CK

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Delete a message from the list archive
by Christian F Buser 02 Nov '20

02 Nov '20

Hello In a Mailman mailing list (which runs in a cPanel installation), a user sent a message which was not really for the list. Of course, all "normal" recipients already have this message in their mailboxes. There is nothing I could do there. But is it possible to delete this single message from the list’s archive, so that it will not be there "forever" and not show up in the digest the next day? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: https://www.chance-for-children.org

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