Mailman 3 July 2020 - Mailman-Users

"Error: Unknown virtual host" trying to create new list from web UI
by Sean McBride July 30, 2020

July 30, 2020

Hi all, I'm running mailman 2.1.x. I haven't had need to create a new list in years, but now I need to. Trying to do so from the web UI here: <https://mail.rogue-research.com/mailman/create> results in: "Error: Unknown virtual host: mail.rogue-research.com". After searching for this, I now have a partial understanding of the problem. In my Defaults.py I see: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'foo.rogue-research.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'foo.rogue-research.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' foo is the real hostname of the machine. I guess that's how it ended up there? After reading the comments in that file and FAQ 4.29, I *think* the correct solution is to append the following 5 lines to my mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'rogue-research.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.rogue-research.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Is that correct? Many thanks, Sean

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Very strange issue With Mailman + Exchange(?)
by Bruce Johnson July 29, 2020

July 29, 2020

I am not sure how to figure this out. Lengthy explanation: Internally in our Exchange server, that address is a distribution group whose only member is the actual <list-name>@lists.pharmacy.arizona.edu, because the Mailman server is not our mail server. (we have a mildly complicated setup: hybrid OnPrem and O365 exchange + Barracuda spam appliance in front of all of it, which is our actual SMTP server. Outgoing email from the list server bypasses Exchange and is sent directly to the Barracuda SMTP server. For two users and ONLY these two users, somewhere between them and mailman and back, the Mailman list is being expanded to put all the members of the list on the CC line. It then gets held for approval with a ’too many addresses’ message. I have watched them send an email to the affected list; the list address is NOT in their local address cache, and they are NOT entering any other addresses in the email other than the list address. The only address that appears on the email in their Sent folder is the list address. Other users in our organization can send to these same lists without this happening. In fact one of the affected users can send to *other* lists on our server with no problems. These are two different lists. I don’t know that this is specifically a Mailman problem (because it’s only happening with specific users) but I cannot see how list members are getting stuffed on the CC line otherwise; because Exchange only knows the list address, not the members; only Mailman does. TLDR: Somehow the all the list addresses are getting stuck onto the list message which then holds it for approval for ’too many addresses’. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs

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Alternate URL hostname in web UI
by Kevin Bowen July 29, 2020

July 29, 2020

Hello, I'm trying to set up the mailman (2.1.9) web UI behind a load balancer in order to offload the TLS to it (because this is an ancient machine which doesn't support modern TLS versions, and newer browsers are complaining about it). I need all the links in the web UI to use the new hostname that's in front of the loadbalancer, instead of the actual hostname behind the loadbalancer. Am I understanding correctly that DEFAULT_URL_HOST in mm_cfg.py would be the way to accomplish that? And would that affect only the URLs used in the web UI, it wouldn't change anything about the actual mail handling under the hood? Kevin Bowen kevin.t.bowen(a)gmail.com <kevin(a)ucsd.edu>

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Disable mailman 3 emergency moderation flag after migration from mailman 2
by Johanna Amann July 28, 2020

July 28, 2020

Hi, I have a kind of interesting problem. We migrated a mailman 2 list that had emergency moderation enabled to mailman 3 (version 3.3.1). This was imported into mailman 3 - so emergency moderation is still enabled. The web interface, however, does not expose the emergency moderation flag. Is there some way to disable it via the command line? Thanks a lot, Johanna

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No access to list archives
by Odhiambo Washington July 28, 2020

July 28, 2020

Hi, Odd issue between two OSes with the same config: In both cases, the archives are configured for public access. On one server, archives are accessible while on the other, access is denied with the error message: *AH00037: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/LISTNAME, referer: https://lists.server.name/mailman/listinfo/LISTNAME <https://lists.server.name/mailman/listinfo/LISTNAME>* root@gw:/usr/local/etc/apache24/Includes # ls -al /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/LISTNAME/ total 12 drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 26 21:49 . drwxrws--- 58 root mailman 1536 Jul 26 21:49 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman 493 Jul 26 21:49 index.html <VirtualHost *:443> ServerAdmin odhiambo(a)gmail.com ServerName lists.server.name RewriteEngine On Redirect Permanent /htdig /icons/htdig RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo/ Alias /pipermail /usr/local/mailman/archives/public <Directory /usr/local/mailman/icons/> AllowOverride all Require all granted </Directory> Alias /icons /usr/local/www/icons <Directory /usr/local/mailman/icons/> AllowOverride all Require all granted </Directory> Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/icons/ <Directory /usr/local/www/icons/> AllowOverride all Require all granted </Directory> <Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/> Options Indexes FollowSymlinks *<= one would think that this is where the issue is, but seems like it's elsewhere???* AllowOverride None Require all granted </Directory> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/> Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI AllowOverride None Require all granted </Directory> ErrorLog /var/log/mailman-error.log CustomLog /var/log/mailman-access.log combined </VirtualHost> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

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Upgrading from 2.1.12
by Daniel Krause July 27, 2020

July 27, 2020

Good Day We have a running 2.1.12 installation that was done long ago via an external consultant. It hasn't been changed in years, but I would like to upgrade this to at least the latest 2.x version and potentially 3.x. We would also like to migrate this from the current Centos VM to an Ubuntu EC2 instance Knowing very little about the structure etc of the data etc, what would be the best way to go about this? Regards -- *Daniel Krause* *Head of IT* *Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel(a)noldor.co.za* <daniel(a)noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>

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Problem running CGI - Mailman Admin UI
by Odhiambo Washington July 25, 2020

July 25, 2020

Hello List Admins, I am somehow at the end of my thinking capacity with this problem, yet I think it's something minor that a third eye can help me with: I have installed mailman-2.1.34 on a brand new box running FreeBSD-12.1. The problem is that the web UI won't open. It instead prompts me to download a file. The contents of the file can be seen from the below link: https://pastebin.com/8bh6g6rv <https://pastebin.com/8bh6g6rv>How I have done the installation: 1. I did the manual options cd mailman-2.1.34 ./configure --with-cgi-gid=80 --with-mail-gid=26 make make install 2. The files in /usr/local/mailman: drwxrwsr-x 24 root mailman 1024 Jul 22 17:42 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root wheel 1024 Jul 19 16:08 .. drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 3072 Jul 22 15:52 Mailman drwxrwsr-x 5 mailman mailman 512 Jul 19 17:32 archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1536 Jul 22 15:52 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 cgi-bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 23 02:19 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 icons -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 10 Apr 18 2015 last_mailman_version drwxrwsr-x 27 root mailman 1024 Jul 19 17:32 lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 23 12:00 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 12:44 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 mail drwxrwsrwx 22 root mailman 512 Jul 29 2017 mailman drwxrwsr-x 41 root mailman 512 Dec 7 2018 messages drwxrwsr-x 3 root mailman 512 Jul 19 17:32 pythonlib drwxrwsr-x 12 root mailman 512 Jul 19 17:32 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 19 17:32 spam drwxrwsr-x 45 root mailman 1024 Jul 19 17:32 templates drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 Jul 22 15:52 tests 3. The file perms in the cgi-bin/ -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 admin -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 admindb -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 confirm -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 create -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 edithtml -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 19312 Jul 19 17:32 htdig -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 listinfo -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 19312 Jul 19 17:32 mmsearch -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 options -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 private -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 roster -rw-r-Sr-- 1 root mailman 37742 Nov 25 2012 sitemap.xml.gz -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 32728 Jul 22 15:52 subscribe -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 108566 Oct 23 2009 swish.cgi root@gw:/usr/local/etc/apache24/Includes # id mailman uid=91(mailman) gid=91(mailman) groups=91(mailman),26(mailnull),80(www) root@gw:/usr/local/etc/apache24/Includes # id www uid=80(www) gid=80(www) groups=80(www),72(rt4) VirtualHost configuration: <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName lists.mydom.ain ServerAdmin odhiambo(a)gmail.com ErrorLog /var/log/mailman-error.log RewriteEngine On # RedirectPermanent /mailman/ https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/ RewriteRule ^/(mailman|pipermail|icons|htdig)/.+$ - [S=1] RewriteRule ^/(mailman|pipermail|icons|htdig)(/.*) https://%{HTTP_HOST}/$1$2$3$4 [L,R] RedirectPermanent /htdig /icons/htdig RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo/ Alias /pipermail "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public" <Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/> Options Indexes FollowSymlinks AllowOverride all Order Allow,Deny Allow from all Require all granted </Directory> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/> Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI AllowOverride None Order Allow,Deny Allow from all Require all granted </Directory> </VirtualHost> What is it that I am being blind to that makes the web UI not open? Thanking you in advance for being my third eye. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

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identify why a message from a particular user is being discarded
by Bryan Teague July 21, 2020

July 21, 2020

Hello, I’m running an older version of the Mailman software (2.1.15), currently. This morning, a mailing list owner reported that they had a user that could not send an email to the mailing list. When I looked in the logs, I saw the email come in, and then be discarded according to vette log. This user has been able to post to the mailing list in the past. I have reviewed the settings for the mailing list and can not determine why the message is being discarded. Is there anything I can do to get additional insight into this discard issue? Thanks, Bryan Bryan Teague Senior Web Administrator, Library and Web Services Information Technology Services Maher Hall 196 5998 Alcalá Park San Diego, CA 92110-2492 Work: 619.260.7842 Cell: 619.321.7288 bryant(a)sandiego.edu <mailto:bryant@sandiego.edu>

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experimental mailman3 gpg wkd support for service mails
by Ludwig Reiter July 20, 2020

July 20, 2020

Hello! I'm working on gpg/wkd support for mailman 3. The repository is: https://gitlab.com/reiterl/mailman3-gpg-wkd.git The code sign and encrypt service mails and is experimental. I tested it with mailman 3, python 3.7 and gpgme 1.12.0. Published it here, because someone with interest in signed and encrypted mails with gpgme and wkd can look at it. Kind Regards, Ludwig -- Intevation GmbH, Osnabrück Firmensitz: Neuer Graben 17, 49074 Osnabrück Registereintrag: Amtsgericht Osnabrück, HR B 18998 Geschäftsführer: Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner

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Compiling mailaman-2.1.x against python3.x
by Odhiambo Washington July 18, 2020

July 18, 2020

Hi, I am trying to manually compile mailman-2.1.34 against python3.x on FreeBSD-12.1 because python2.7 is being EoLed on the platform. I am getting these errors which I need help with: root@gw:/home/wash/Tools/Mailman/2.1.29/mailman-2.1.34 # ln -fs /usr/local/bin/python3.6 /usr/local/bin/python root@gw:/home/wash/Tools/Mailman/2.1.29/mailman-2.1.34 # ./configure --with-cgi-gid=80 --with-mail-gid=26 checking for --with-python... no checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python version... 3.6.11 checking dnspython... ok checking Python's email package... Traceback (most recent call last): File "conftest.py", line 8, in <module> version = tuple(int(v) for v in email.__version__.split('.')) AttributeError: module 'email' has no attribute '__version__' cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory checking Japanese codecs... Traceback (most recent call last): File "conftest.py", line 2, in <module> unicode('OK', 'iso-2022-jp') NameError: name 'unicode' is not defined cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory checking Korean codecs... Traceback (most recent call last): File "conftest.py", line 2, in <module> unicode('OK', 'euc-kr') NameError: name 'unicode' is not defined cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory checking that Python has a working distutils... yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for true... /usr/bin/true checking for --without-gcc... no checking for gcc... no checking for cc... cc checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes checking for --with-var-prefix... no checking for --with-permcheck... yes checking for --with-username... mailman checking for user name "mailman"... okay checking for --with-groupname... mailman checking for group name "mailman"... okay checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... File "conftest.py", line 17 if mailmangid <> gid: ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory configure: error: ***** Installation directory /usr/local/mailman is not configured properly! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

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