Mailman 3 January 2021 - Mailman-Users

Using cronjob to remove and add members to a mailing list
by Jerry Barnabee 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

I want to be able to run a cronjob on my server that uses a php script to add new users and/or remove users from a mailing list. Not having any luck finding any simple examples. My thought is that the php script would get email addresses from a database (which I can do) and then feed them to a mailman command line to either add or remove a user. The cronjob is entered via Cpanel. Have several cronjobs that modify databases but have never tried something that would actually execute a unix command. Thanks, Pineyscripter

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 18 Mar '22

18 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Subscription Requests
by nikos 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hello list. I'm receiving a lot of fake Subscription Requests and spend time to discard them. 1. how can I "lock" lists not to receive requests except administrator's mass subscription? 2. how can I mass discard those request from console? Thank you in advance, Nikos.

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Mailing List Bounce Issues
by steve lund 03 Mar '21

03 Mar '21

Hello, I am the mailing list administrator for a charity cycling team. The list currently has about 150 members. The list and our website is hosted by a local ISP who is running Mailman 2.1.34. We seem to be having all too frequent occurrences of multiple bounces that seem to be related only to the domain of the address recipient. Previously we have had issues with AOL.com and Mindspring.com email domains. The main result of these are disabled subscriptions due to excessive bounces. The latest in this continuing saga occurred on Monday morning when I received notification that 12! list members with Yahoo.com email domain addresses had been unsubscribed from the list! I am assuming that this is the sum total of ALL yahoo addresses in our list. The interesting thing about this occurrence other than losing the name associated with the email address (since the members were unsubscribed not just disabled) is that I NEVER received ANY bounce notifications other than the unsubscribe notification. I find this quite odd and unsettling considering that the list shows that it IS configured to send earlier bounce notifications and I have received them in the past... just not leading up to this latest incident. The typical error message is: jonxx_dajxxn(a)yahoo.com <jones_dajuan(a)yahoo.com> has been removed from MSing-ride. (disabled address) So I guess that my question is whether or not these types of problems are now endemic to all email lists or if....Our ISP is technically "challenged" and 1. Doesn't know how to properly configure Mailman to send out the requested notifications. 2. Continues to get blacklisted for sending SPAM even though they don't. Thanks for any insight. Steve

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Non-member regexps
by Daniel Krause 12 Feb '21

12 Feb '21

Good Day We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful. Below are 2 examples I have tried ^.+(a)noldor\.co\.za$ ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$ ^.+(a)gmail.com$ ^.*gmail\.com$ Regards -- *Daniel Krause* *Head of IT* *Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel(a)noldor.co.za* <daniel(a)noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>

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Disable unsubscribe notification
by Moritz Fromm 29 Jan '21

29 Jan '21

Hi Everyone, I have created mailing list (mailman3 + postorius) to use as our members newsletter. We enter and remove the Members manually and only use it as a tool for us, therefore we do not want the default welcome message (which we have disabled), but I can't find a way o disable the notification once the member is removed from the list. The "list:user:notice:goodbye" Template only seemed to affect the message content but not the header. I would appreciate any tips and ideas, thanks a lot in advance! Best Moritz P.s. Hello World!

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List called "mailman" and automatically discard subscription requests for a list
by Bader, Robert (Bob) 28 Jan '21

28 Jan '21

I have a list on my mailman server 2.1 called “mailman”, with no users. Is this a default list that gets created, can I delete it what is it for, it may have been created by an old admin who was testing? Also, I started getting a lot of subscription requests to this list, I think it is a bot, but not sure what it is trying to do. Anyway this got me thinking. Is there a way to setup a list to automatically discard subscription requests and NOT send a rejection notice? I could ban all domains from that list, but it is my understanding a rejection notice gets sent. We have some lists where the admin is the person who populates the list.

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Export members
by David Doonan 27 Jan '21

27 Jan '21

Is there a way to export the members of a list? Mailman version 2.1.33 Thanks, David

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Conceal yourself from subscriber list
by David Doonan 27 Jan '21

27 Jan '21

Is it possible to remove the option "Conceal yourself from subscriber list”? David

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DMARC mitigation failing on one list
by Philip Paeps 25 Jan '21

25 Jan '21

We have DMARC "munge from" configured on all mailing lists on lists.freebsd.org. This week, I learned that one of our lists is not actually munging though. I've done a `config_list -o` and compared the output to a list that does munge correctly and I'm not seeing anything that would explain the problem. When a poster from a DMARC-crippled domain tries to post to this list, I see a line in vette that the DMARC policy has been found. There are no messages in the error log. Any idea what could explain this? And how I could go about fixing it? Many thanks. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises

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file attatched to every email
by rick.fry＠rfit.net 23 Jan '21

23 Jan '21

I cant get rid of a file that appears to include the header message. Not sure which setting to change any help much appreciated

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Help with archive
by sundar 22 Jan '21

22 Jan '21

Hello Mark, I am trying to remove the archives older than 2 years by using the following python script. But, it works for 365 days only. any other possibilities to use this script for 2 years. https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/prune_arch -- Regards, Sundar

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some mails do not arrive to the list
by serge billon 20 Jan '21

20 Jan '21

Hello, I manage for an association a mailman list on cpanel The president has changed her address and since she changed her address her e-mails no longer reach the recipients. Her e-mails are well archived, but no one has received them. It is the same for another person. Do you have an idea of the bug and how to fix it? Thanks for all

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Newbie question - installing on GoDaddy?
by Vicki Mieth 18 Jan '21

18 Jan '21

Has anyone installed mailman on a GoDaddy based website? Did you have problems? I need this functionality, but I'm not that much of a techie to feel comfortable without asking someone who has done this before. Thank you.

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How to Fix Hotmail and Outlook to Allow "Safe Mailing Lists"
by Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular 16 Jan '21

16 Jan '21

/For your education and possible amusement...// // //I am the list administrator for a GNU Mailman list of about 750 psychotherapists, most of them aged 60- to 80-years-old.// // //These are very, very capable people -- not all of whom are highly computer-savvy.// // //I was recently aghast to discover that not only does Hotmail still exist (!?), but that about 40 of our active members have Hotmail accounts. (!!!???)// // //The following is a fix for how Hotmail users can set up "Safe Mailing Lists" so as to keep your mailing lists from being blocked by Hotmail. I pursued this after checking with Microsoft to make sure my domain was not being entirely blocked as a spammer domain.// // //Just in case you have any Hotmail users...// // /-------- Forwarded Message -------- Dear Hotmail Users: A few weeks ago I wrote asking for feedback as to whether or not you are receiving the Clinicians Exchange email list messages. Some Hotmail users wrote back that they ARE receiving list messages. Some Hotmail users wrote back that they ARE NOT receiving list messages. This has been a perplexing problem. I believe we now have a fix (read on to see what to do). The issue is that Hotmail (and Outlook) have an automatic filter rule that filters out all mailing lists where the mailing list address is not your individual address. So anything addressed to "clinicians-exchange(a)clinicians-exchange.org" is thrown away since its not addressed to your individual email address (such as "smith(a)smith.com" -- even though you are on the list). I believe that Hotmail seems to just discard everything to the "bit bucket in the sky" without an error message and without placing such messages in a Junk or Spam folder for possible retrieval. This is specifically a Hotmail problem and is correctable in a non-obvious way requiring many steps. Here are the steps in written form. I have attached a .pdf document with the steps illustrated by pictures: *Setting Up "Safe Mailing Lists" In Hotmail and Outlook** * STEP #1: From the Inbox of your online Hotmail or Outlook email account, click on the "Settings" wheel in the upper right-hand corner of the page. STEP #2: In the "Settings" dropdown control dialogue box on the right-hand side of the screen, scroll down to the bottom of the list (likely off-screen when you first start) and select "View all Outlook Settings". STEP #3: When the controls for "View all Outlook settings" pop-up in a dialogue box, click on "Junk Mail". STEP #4: When the "Junk Mail" controls dialogue box pops-up, scroll down to the "Safe Mailing Lists" section (which will likely be off-screen until you scroll down). STEP #5: Click on "Add". Enter "clinicians-exchange(a)lists.clinicians-exchange.org" and press the "Enter" key on your keyboard. Click on "Add" again and enter "clinicians-exchange(a)clinicians-exchange.org" and press the "Enter" key again. Make sure to click the blue "Save" button at the bottom right of the screen. You are done! Close dialogue boxes and go back to your inbox. Please see attached .pdf for an illustrated version. Some Hotmail users seem to have no problem receiving our list even when these "Safe Mailing List" steps are not implemented. It's weird. Thanks, Michael Reeder Moderator Team PREFERRED: clinicians-exchange-owner(a)clinicians-exchange.org PERSONAL: michael(a)hygeiacounseling.com *Michael Reeder, LCPC * *Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location* *410-205-2419 / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com* *http://www.hygeiacounseling.com - main website. *

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acceptable_aliases, multiple addresses
by Lars Bjørndal 13 Jan '21

13 Jan '21

For one list I'm administrating, I want to have two aliases, and I'm unsure how to format the acceptable_aliases value. Is it correct this way? acceptable_aliases = 'user1(a)example.com', 'user1(a)list.example.com' Is this correct, e.g. ending the first line with comma? Thanks Lars

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leaking user list to recipient email domains
by Mike Wertheim 08 Jan '21

08 Jan '21

I'm running Mailman version 2.1.29. I have a Mailman email list that has around 500 subscribers, who are all members of an organization who have opted-in to the list. One of the email addresses on the list used a custom personalized domain, which started bouncing. I didn't notice the bounces at the time. Eventually, Google started sending the list moderators messages saying "Our system has detected an excessively high number of invalid recipients originating from your account," and Gmail started rejecting list messages that were being sent to the list subscribers who use a Gmail address. I removed the bouncing email address from the list, and soon after that Gmail started accepting messages from the email list again. This seems like a very precarious situation to be in... I have a list of 500 email addresses, and Google starts rejecting all incoming email from my list just because 1 of 500 email addresses was bouncing. I sought help from someone at my hosting provider who seems to be knowledgeable about Mailman configuration. He said that the problem was that Mailman was batching up the emails and sending a single email to the entire batch, putting each individual email address in the "RCPT TO" field. So when a bounce happened, Gmail was able to associate the bad address from my domain with the bounce that was happening on the bouncing personalized domain. The advice for fixing the problem was to set the "personalize" setting to "Full Personalization", which would prevent Google from making that association. I think this worked (but don't know for sure, since I don't know that we've had any bounces since then). The problem with "Full Personalization" is that the email headers are being rewritten, which is confusing to users. Now, if someone sends an email to the list, the message that is delivered to each recipient has the recipient's email address in the "To" header and the list email address in the "Cc" header. It works, but it's confusing (and some people's email filters now have to be changed). Questions... 1) Given my description of the initial problem, is "Full Personalization" the best way to fix the issue? 2) Is there a way to fix the issue that doesn't involve rewriting the headers so that the email list address is in the "Cc" field? 3) Would upgrading to Mailman 3 help fix this issue in a better way? Thanks Mike

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Mailman Archives problem
by sundar 05 Jan '21

05 Jan '21

Hi, I am using mailman 2.1.29, pipermail 0.09 , I am facing a problem with the archives attachment. The HTML attachments are scrubbed in the url like "mailman/private/announce/attachments/20191231/1ef651ee/*attachment.htm*" , when we open that url it shows as a html source code. can anyone help me with this issue? It show as following : html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none"></style> </head> <body dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <span style="color:rgb(189,19,152); font-size:18pt">" रोज एक हिन्दी शब्द सीखें "</span><br> </p> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> <div dir="ltr" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style=""> -- Regards, Sundar

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Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests
by jackson＠encompasserve.org 02 Jan '21

02 Jan '21

Some time ago, spam received from a faked address. Admin email received 8am each morning listing the pending posts from non-members. Go in and: 1. select 'Reject' on each post 2. add the faked sender to the block from subscribing filter 3. submit all data Mailman reports "There are no pending requests." Tomorrow the same thing happens reporting the same historic date of the non-member post. * Have checked mailserver logs; not being received daily * Have added fake addresses to upstream anti-spam blacklist So, narrowing-down, seems Mailman has groundhog day syndrome?

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Mailman-Users January 2021