Mailman-Users February 2021

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Subscription Requests
by nikos 01 Jun '21

01 Jun '21

Hello list. I'm receiving a lot of fake Subscription Requests and spend time to discard them. 1. how can I "lock" lists not to receive requests except administrator's mass subscription? 2. how can I mass discard those request from console? Thank you in advance, Nikos.

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Mailing List Bounce Issues
by steve lund 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Hello, I am the mailing list administrator for a charity cycling team. The list currently has about 150 members. The list and our website is hosted by a local ISP who is running Mailman 2.1.34. We seem to be having all too frequent occurrences of multiple bounces that seem to be related only to the domain of the address recipient. Previously we have had issues with AOL.com and Mindspring.com email domains. The main result of these are disabled subscriptions due to excessive bounces. The latest in this continuing saga occurred on Monday morning when I received notification that 12! list members with Yahoo.com email domain addresses had been unsubscribed from the list! I am assuming that this is the sum total of ALL yahoo addresses in our list. The interesting thing about this occurrence other than losing the name associated with the email address (since the members were unsubscribed not just disabled) is that I NEVER received ANY bounce notifications other than the unsubscribe notification. I find this quite odd and unsettling considering that the list shows that it IS configured to send earlier bounce notifications and I have received them in the past... just not leading up to this latest incident. The typical error message is: jonxx_dajxxn(a)yahoo.com <jones_dajuan(a)yahoo.com> has been removed from MSing-ride. (disabled address) So I guess that my question is whether or not these types of problems are now endemic to all email lists or if....Our ISP is technically "challenged" and 1. Doesn't know how to properly configure Mailman to send out the requested notifications. 2. Continues to get blacklisted for sending SPAM even though they don't. Thanks for any insight. Steve

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Does mailman work well for large lists?
by David.barden＠mail.com 27 Feb '21

27 Feb '21

Good day, Looking for a solution to have about 50-200 lists for subscribers. Any good examples of mailman being used for 50+ lists you can share for me to see? Trying to see the feasibility of implementing a solution in next 90 days. Would like to see a working one, where a user would go to a site, and pick a list to subscribe. Is mailman easy to setup and maintain? Windows or Linux server recommended? Thank you. David.

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Weird no-posting no-moderation queue bouncing of posts
by Thomas Gramstad 26 Feb '21

26 Feb '21

I have a strange, occasionally occurring phenomenon on one of my mailing lists (in Mailman 2.29) which I don't understand: 1. A subscribed address to the list tries to post a message to the list. 2. The attempted posting does not go through to the list, nor does it go to the moderation queue. Instead, I the list admin receives a message via the bounces-address with a copy of the attempted posting. 3. The bounce message looks like/similar to the bounce message that is generated when a bounce happens at one single individual subscriber's e-mail address. But in that case the list archive as well as other subscribers (including me) will get a copy of the posting. And that is not the case here. No copy to me, nothing in the archive. So the only trace I can see of the posting is the weird bounce message containing a copy of the posting. Why doesn't the attempted posting go to the moderator queue, if there is something about the subscriber or the message that prevents it from being distributed? (The list in question is unmoderated for subscribers.) Below is a copy of one of the strange bounce postings. Thomas Gramstad thomas(a)gramstad.no ----

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API/App based access to Mailman/Archives
by Steven Clift 21 Feb '21

21 Feb '21

Is it technically possible to interact via an API from a simple mobile app with different Mailman servers? My thought is something simple that could in theory be expanded into an app that interfaces with your groups and public groups on Mailman, BuddyPress, Discourse and other open source hosted online groups. You'd paste in the URLs of your online groups/list sites in some way. Like the olden days of news groups and the experience of an RSS reader, you could quickly scan the number of new posts over X time or since you last opened the app and then dip into the groups of interest and if you can authenticate yourself, post on lists/groups where you are a member. Thoughts? I am evaluating whether in the age of Facebook Groups, NextDoor, and mobile apps if an open source/non-commercial path to viable online neighborhood groups with mass participation is possible. We have a bunch of online groups to move from GroupServer for E-Democracy.org. Thanks, Steven Clift P.S. I see that this is out there for Discourse: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.discourse

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Re: Daily "pending moderator requests" despite empty moderation queue
by JACKSON＠encompasserve.org 18 Feb '21

18 Feb '21

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:28:46 +0100, Johannes Rohr <jorohr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > for some lists, the listowners in the last few days keep getting "pending > moderator requests" emails every day, even though there are no pending > requests. > > What mechanism generates these requests and how can I get rid of those > redundant mails? (short of migrating to mailman 3 which I plan on doing) > > Cheers, thanks a lot in advance, > > Johannes Hi Johannes, this may not be your problem, but I had a similar one: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/JC7A… In case that wraps badly for you: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org and search "SOLVED" and sort by latest first. It will be on top. The version of Mailman it refers-to is shown in the subject line. Kind regards

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Daily "pending moderator requests" despite empty moderation queue
by Johannes Rohr 18 Feb '21

18 Feb '21

Dear all, for some lists, the listowners in the last few days keep getting "pending moderator requests" emails every day, even though there are no pending requests. What mechanism generates these requests and how can I get rid of those redundant mails? (short of migrating to mailman 3 which I plan on doing) Cheers, thanks a lot in advance, Johannes

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