Mailman-Users June 2021

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27 discussions

Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Munge without CC or Reply-To
by Diez 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hello. I'm new at this list. I'm trying to setup a list (I'm not the site admin), and I'd like to use Munge From setting, but I'd like not have Reply-To field or CC field, but I suspect is not possible. I was testing with anonymous_list, but the problem is that only a certain member should send some kind of calls, but with anonymous_list anyone could send it. I'm setting up with 2.1.23 version. Regards and thanks in advanced and sorry for my bad english

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MM 2.1 - How to show member name, but not member address in member list
by greg＠beyerusa.net 19 Jul '21

19 Jul '21

Hi, is it possible to show only the member name, but keep their email address hidden from the member list, that non-admin members may view? I'd like my members to see who, by name, is on the list, but not divulge their email addresses. The hide flag on membership management hides everything. Thanks, Greg

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Gmail and DKIM problems
by Thomas Gramstad 02 Jul '21

02 Jul '21

A subscriber to one of my lists who posts from gmail has been made aware that some list subscribers do not get his postings because of DKIM setup at gmail. See attached error message. I understand that he can't do anything about the DKIM setup at gmail. Can I as list admin do something in the list setup (Mailman 2.29)? Also, how many subscribers are likely affected by his (or any gmail user's) DKIM setup? That is, are most list subscribers receiving his messages anyway, or is this problem preventing e-mail from him going to most list subscribers? Thomas Gramstad ---- Message was blocked due to DKIM (). From:Anders Ericson *frilanders(a)gmail.com* <frilanders(a)gmail.com> To: Biblioteknorge *biblioteknorge(a)kunnskapsallmenning.no* <biblioteknorge(a)kunnskapsallmenning.no> Subject: Biblioteket som statussymbol. Lat ungdomen lese, for _born._Vegar,_vatn,_straum_–_og_bibliotek Date:2021-06-24 09:47PM Message ID:1624564030-205058-5323-17319-1 IP:158.36.191.155 (hotell.nuug.no) Envelope From:biblioteknorge-bounces@mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no Recipients: Recipients Action Reason Delivery Status *kristin.johanne.havstad(a)arendal.kommune.no* <kristin.johanne.havstad(a)arendal.kommune.no> Blocked DKIM Not Delivered Dette kan muligens skyldes at SPF record ikke er helt riktig: v=spf1 redirect=_spf.google.com SPF Alignment Domain not found in SPF Med vennlig hilsen *Odd Arvid Knudsen* *Teknologiarkitekt* M: +47 488 92 398 *ıkt**.**agder* *Enklere hverdag*

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Recommended reading before upgrading to 3.x ?
by Andy Cravens 01 Jul '21

01 Jul '21

I’m running mailman 2.x and I am getting ready to build a new server and migrate my lists to 3.x. For those of you who have done this already, do you have any recommended reading suggestions other than the official web page at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html

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What to do when hosting providers frequently gets listed on an RBL
by Kenneth Kron 30 Jun '21

30 Jun '21

My hosting seems to be permanently banned by Yahoo and today Comcast started bouncing them. I worked on the yahoo problem for a week with tech support and they never seemed to make any progress. Yesterday comcast.net <http://comcast.net/> started bouncing with an RBL notice. I’m ready to move my mailing list but I’m not sure where to and I’m wondering how common this problem is and how to select a provider that is capable of keeping my mailing list of the RBL’s. ——— Relevant bounce message from comcast Action: failed Status: 4.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; delivery temporarily suspended: host mx1.comcast.net <http://mx1.comcast.net/>[96.114.157.80] refused to talk to me: 554 resimta-po-36v.sys.comcast.net <http://resimta-po-36v.sys.comcast.net/> resimta-po-36v.sys.comcast.net <http://resimta-po-36v.sys.comcast.net/> 74.220.211.235 found on one or more DNSBLs, see http://postmaster.comcast.net/smtp-error-codes.php#BL001000 <http://postmaster.comcast.net/smtp-error-codes.php#BL001000> Return-Path: <virtualdojo-bounces(a)createabeautifulworld.org <mailto:virtualdojo-bounces@createabeautifulworld.org>> Received: from gateway10.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway10.unifiedlayer.com/> (gateway10.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway10.unifiedlayer.com/> [69.89.24.105]) by gateway13.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway13.unifiedlayer.com/> (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59AC202059C3 for <txxx(a)comcast.net <mailto:tejabell@comcast.net>>; Fri, 4 Jun 2021 10:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm4.websitewelcome.com <http://cm4.websitewelcome.com/> (unknown [108.167.139.16]) by gateway10.unifiedlayer.com <http://gateway10.unifiedlayer.com/> (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01C02009A768 for <txxx(a)comcast.net <mailto:tejabell@comcast.net>>; Fri, 4 Jun 2021 10:58:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from shared18.arvixe.com <http://shared18.arvixe.com/> ([143.95.240.20]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id pCD4ln04ID5lxpCD4lHJKQ; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 10:58:10 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: ss=1 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=22440 helo=shared18.arvixe.com <http://shared18.arvixe.com/>) by shared18.arvixe.com <http://shared18.arvixe.com/> with esmtp (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from <virtualdojo-bounces(a)createabeautifulworld.org <mailto:virtualdojo-bounces@createabeautifulworld.org>>) id 1lpCD4-000rIO-Aw; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 10:58:10 -0500

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Help with one of Mark's scripts
by Bruce Johnson 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

I'm trying to run the nonmembers_modify-py script here https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members but keep getting the error that the lists are non-existent. I’m trying to add a non-member accept to a bunch of our Class_of lists: [root@dhbmailman1 bin]# ./list_lists | grep Class Class_of_21 - Generated from Oracle Class_of_21_phx - Generated from Oracle Class_of_21_tuc - Generated from Oracle Class_of_22 - Generated from Oracle Class_of_22_phx - Generated from Oracle Class_of_22_tuc - Generated from Oracle Class_of_23 - Generated from Oracle Class_of_23_phx - Generated from Oracle Class_of_23_tuc - Generated from Oracle Class_of_24 - Generated from Oracle Class_of_24_phx - Generated from Oracle Class_of_24_tuc - Generated from Oracle I've tried both ./nonmembers_modify.py -l Class_of_21_tuc -f accept -a address@to_add and ./nonmembers_modify.py -l Class_of_21_tuc(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu -f accept -a address@to_add And both get the error Non-existent list [root@dhbmailman1 bin]# ./nonmember_modify.py -l Class_of_21_tuc -f accept -a address(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu -v Add or remove addresses to/from *_these_nonmembers Usage: ./nonmember_modify.py [options] Where: [snip help text] This script must run from Mailman's bin/ directory. Non-existent list: Class_of_21_tuc -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs

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MM 2.1: User unknown in virtual mailbox table
by Cambium 27 Jun '21

27 Jun '21

Hi a mailing list was created with MM2.1 by a another person and I am the list administrator. This list was created empty so I started inviting people to join. However, when I started to send trial messages to the list I received this error message: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: assemblea(a)llistes.ruderal.cat host llistes.ruderal.cat [159.69.3.30] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<assemblea(a)llistes.ruderal.cat>: 550 5.1.1 <assemblea(a)llistes.ruderal.cat>:Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table Reporting-MTA: dns; chi103.greengeeks.net Action: failed Final-Recipient: rfc822;assemblea(a)llistes.ruderal.cat Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; llistes.ruderal.cat Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.1.1 <assemblea(a)llistes.ruderal.cat>:Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table I don't understand why, especially because the unknown user's address is my address which is part of the users mailing list. Can anyone help understand why this happens and how to fix it? (right now I don't have access to the person who initially created the list) Best regards -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Scotti Formador, Consultor y Diseñador de Permacultura Diploma en Diseño Aplicado de Permacultura Tutor en la Academia de Permacultura Íbera <3D"https://academiapermaculturaibera.org/"> Facilitador curso GEDS (Gaia Education Design for Sustainability) <3D"https://www.gaiaeducation.org/elearning-programmes/design-for-sustainabilit…"> As. Cambium Permacultura en Formación <3D"https://permacultura-es.org/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&vi=> FB <3D"https://www.facebook.com/antonio.scotti.129/"> Webmaster de Permacultura-es.org <https://www.permacultura-es.org> -- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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