Mailman-Users February 2022

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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DMARC Wrap Message doesn't preserve addressees
by Matthew Pounsett 28 Feb '22

28 Feb '22

We've noticed that with DMARC moderation set to "Wrap Message", the rewritten header doesn't preserve the original addressee list. In the particular case that I'm looking at right now, the list address itself is removed from the Cc header. We've had a few complaints that this results in responses not going back to the list, as intended. I don't see a related config option, but I'm wondering if I've missed something. Is this possibly the side-effect of, or an undesirable interaction with, some other configuration option we might have set? We're running v2.1.38. Thanks

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Gmail now flagging list emails as suspicious
by mattfarr＠gmail.com 28 Feb '22

28 Feb '22

Hi everyone, We have a mailman list running version 2.1.38. https://homesteadfarm.org/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_homesteadfarm.org The list has been in service for more than 20 years and we have 400+ people on the list who live in our neighborhood. Recently, Gmail is flagging list emails with this message (in a bright orange-yellow box): Be careful with this message Gmail could not verify that it actually came from homesteadfarm.org. Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or replying with personal information. I read through the archives and thought there was a similar thread. In particular, this response seemed relevant: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg73812.html In particular: 4) Add your own outgoing DKIM signature. My apologies in advance if I am asking a stupid question, but how does one go about adding their own outgoing DKIM signature? Thanks, Matt

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Handling non-members in Cgi/options.py
by David Siebörger 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

It seems to me that the logic in this change is not correct: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1881 For lists with private_roster > 0, when the user has entered a email address which is not subscribed to that list, the return is taken without having printed a response. In my environment, Apache httpd then sends a 500 Internal Server Error to the browser. While not saying so in so many words, this behaviour does subtly disclose that the email address is not subscribed. The only privacy-preserving way to proceed would be for Mailman to pretend that the user is subscribed, which is what happened prior to this revision.

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Munge without CC or Reply-To
by Diez 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hello. I'm new at this list. I'm trying to setup a list (I'm not the site admin), and I'd like to use Munge From setting, but I'd like not have Reply-To field or CC field, but I suspect is not possible. I was testing with anonymous_list, but the problem is that only a certain member should send some kind of calls, but with anonymous_list anyone could send it. I'm setting up with 2.1.23 version. Regards and thanks in advanced and sorry for my bad english

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Multiple mailing lists with overlapping membership
by linux＠karmasailing.uk 20 Feb '22

20 Feb '22

I run a small club with about 50 members. All the club mailing lists are private. Everyone is in the members(a)domain.name list, and there are two other smaller lists containing subsets of the membership, eg admin(a)domain.name, maintenance(a)domain.name. When a message is sent to both admin(a)domain.name and members(a)domain.name, recipients get both copies of the message. Would it be better to remove individuals who are in the admin(a)domain.name list from the members(a)domain.name list, and then add @admin as a member of the members(a)domain.name list. Does this make members(a)domain.name an 'umbrella' list?

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Bounce Processing
by Peter Knowles 16 Feb '22

16 Feb '22

Hi, We turned off bounce processing with the goal of NOT having subscribers removed in error (false positive) and instead use an internal auditing process to identify and deal with bad addresses. Recently I noticed that while bounce processing is turned OFF, subscriber addresses are still being disabled and "auto-unsubscribed" by Mailman. Would appreciate it if someone can shed some light on this topic... Have I misunderstood something or is something not working as it should be? Thanks in advance :-) Best Regards, Peter Knowles | TPN Solutions

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Moderation bit not working?
by billy noah 15 Feb '22

15 Feb '22

I continue to receive alerts on my list for *one particular user *when they attempt to post to the list: > *post from info(a)example.com <info(a)example.com> requires approval* > The user has been added to the member list with the moderation toggle off. As far as I can tell they are identical to other members that don't trigger this alert and who's messages are automatically sent to the list. Is there some additional step I need to take to allow this member to send messages to the list without the need to approve them? Any ideas what might be going wrong here?

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