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November 2025
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I tried posting this twice at the website and it appears to blackholed both times, don’t know whether it’s a new-user moderating thing or what. So apologies if this is a duplicate
Hopefully, this is simple. I know nothing about the innards of Mailman -- I've been just using it as a black box for a decade and it's been working fine.
Today, in the process of handling a subscriber's non-delivery complaint, I came across this error message in WHM's Mail Delivery Reports:
From Address: mailman-loop(a)server.wickenburg.us
Sender:
Sent Time: Feb 22, 2025, 6:48:18 PM
Sender Host: server.wickenburg.us
Sender IP: 127.0.0.1
Authentication: unauthorized
Spam Score: 0
Recipient: root(a)cloud-ci.unifiedlayer.com
Delivered To:
Delivery User:
Delivery Domain: cloud-ci.unifiedlayer.com
Router: reject
Transport: **rejected**
Out Time: Feb 22, 2025, 6:48:18 PM
ID: 1tm16p-00000000BOG-aS00
Delivery Host: server.wickenburg.us
Delivery IP: 127.0.0.1
Size: 0 bytes
Result: The mail server could not deliver mail to root(a)cloud-ci.unifiedlayer.com. The account or domain may not exist, they may be blacklisted, or missing the proper dns entries.
The recipient identified is not anything I ever set up. "unifiedlayer" belongs to my hosting provider, so this may be some sort of default or unset value. I've scoured the Mailman configuration screens for anything resembling this, or any field I should have provided but left blank, and I'm buffaloed.
Where is Mailman getting this value from, and how to I change it to something more useful?
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Nov. 21, 2025
Greetings,
Ok, I just updated the docker containers that are running my Mailman 3 installation over the weekend. mailman-core is now 3.3.10, with mailman-ngnix at 1.28.0, mailman-postfix at 3.10.5-r0 and mailman-django-uwsgi at "latest".
I think I have got everything working normally — messages seem to be processed correctly, and I can access the web pages on the web interface. And I have updated various scripts to use --run-as-root until I can get around to reconfiguring mailman-core to use a non-root user.
Anyway, since that time, the EC2 instance that the containers are running on becomes "unreachable", to use AWS's parlance. I can restore functionality by rebooting the instance. According to AWS, this is an application or operating system issue, not their instance. Which means auto-recovery doesn't get activated.
This always happens overnight, usually after midnight, though one time it was around 10:40. I don't see any crontab entries that correlate. And the after midnight issues don't always happen at the same time, so it seemed unlikely that it was a crontab job that was causing it
I finally looked at the host (rather than the logs of each container) and realized that the oom-killer was killing django-admin. As a temporary workaround, I've limited memory on the mailman-django-uwsgi container to 4 GiB (though, since I just did that this morning, I won't know until after midnight (presumably) if it worked or not), and set the RestartPolicy to always.
I'm thinking that this points to a memory leak or some kind?
I did have to add a bunch of packages to my Dockerfile when I rebuilt the container, since the last build was like 5 years ago, so I suppose it could be that django is just using more memory than it used to, though at the moment, I see that it is around 1 GiB:
FROM python:3.12-alpine3.22
RUN apk update && apk add --no-cache --virtual build-deps \
cargo gcc libffi-dev musl-dev && \
apk add --no-cache gettext postgresql-dev sassc build-base pcre-dev python3-dev libc-dev linux-headers && \
pip install --upgrade pip setuptools wheel && \
pip --no-cache-dir install django-haystack==3.3.0 hyperkitty==1.3.12 \
postorius==1.3.13 psycopg2 uwsgi==2.0.25 whoosh && \
apk update && apk del --no-cache build-deps
WORKDIR /opt/mailman/mailman-suite/mailman-suite_project
USER mail
EXPOSE 8000
CMD ["uwsgi", "--ini", "uwsgi.ini"]
Any insights, ideas or assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Pat Hirayama
Pronouns: he/him/his
Systems Engineer
IT | Systems Engineering - Infrastructure
Fred Hutch Cancer Center
O 206.667.4856
phirayam(a)fredhutch.org<mailto:phirayam@fredhutch.org>
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