Mailman-Users

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by Skip Montanaro

I've been sort of casually looking for alternatives to Google Groups. I subscribe to and/or help administer a number of groups there. There are a large fraction of us who only ever use the email interface. There are others who would leave (or get out their pitchforks) if the web interface wasn't available. A couple of the groups are fairly large, 3000-4000 subscribers, with archives dating back ten to twenty years. Functionally, Google Groups is fine, but well, it's Google, with all that implies. Most of the time everything is okay, then they make a change to the web interface and all hell breaks loose for a couple weeks or months until Google gets around to fixing the breakage. I've been keeping an eye on Groups.io (subscribed to its group managers list). It's not free, and would cost at least $2000/year for the bigger lists. They have a donation interface to make it easier for list admins to solicit donations to defray costs, but it's not clear that always works as desired. The messages to the group managers list seem to imply GIO has various other warts as well. (It does have a clever #hashtag-in-subject feature for tagging related messages.) So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing. Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin interface. Thanks, Skip Montanaro

6 hours, 31 minutes

How to let everything from any real address through to a list

by Thomas Gramstad

Hi, I'm seeking to replace an out-of-domain .forward file, which is an outdated solution, with a secret mailing list with myself as the only subscriber. So I have created the mailing list thomas@domain, and I want the list address to let everything from any genuine mail address through to me. Spam filtering happens elsewhere. So I'm looking at: List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. If I put this regex there: ^\S+@\S+$ would that accomplish what I want -- letting everything through, only checking that the sender address exists? (Even that check could be done elsewhere though.) Thomas Gramstad

1 day, 17 hours

mailman3 and exim4 problem in debian bullseye

by roberto Burceni

Good evening, I'm configuring mailman3 with exim4 on a debian 11. I followed the official documentation on mailman for exim. It seems to be all rights, but I have a problem: when I send a message to a new lists in exim logs I see that exim uses correctly mailman router and transport. Unfortunately in smtp.log in mailman3 log folder I have the following error: May 04 16:51:01 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) sender: servizioinformatico(a)uicbs.it May 04 16:51:01 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) Data: b'RCPT TO:<listtest-unsubscribe(a)uicbs.it>' May 04 16:51:01 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) recip: listtest-unsubscribe(a)uicbs.it May 04 16:51:01 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) Data: b'DATA' May 04 16:51:02 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) Data: b'QUIT' May 04 16:51:02 2021 (2337) ('127.0.0.1', 34746) connection lost May 04 16:51:02 2021 (2337) Connection lost during _handle_client() This causes that messages are not sent from mailman to users. Have you an idea of the problem? Can it be a memory problem that causes that mailman responses are too slow and exim closes the comunication before the end? Thank you in advance Best regards -- Roberto Burceni Linux System Admin & PHP developer Esperto accessibilità siti web E-mail: roberto(a)robertoburceni.it Phone: +393358208080 P.iva: 04025840986mbre per il mat

2 days, 2 hours

Member Subscription Options - Mass Default

by govostes＠fas.harvard.edu

When adding a mass subscription list is there a way to set a universal default for subscription options for all users/members being added? Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

5 days, 23 hours

Installation Question: Is a web server necessary ?

by White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]

Can one use Mailman 3 without it being behind a web service ? I know the older MM can be managed by emailing commands to it. Does MM3 work like that as well ? Thanks.

1 week, 1 day

Deleting 20,000 pending subscriptions

by John Elliot V | ProgClub

Thanks to the advice of Mark Sapiro I have managed to stop the deluge of subscriptions to my lists, but I am left with the problem of having over 20,000 pending subscriptions awaiting my administration. What would be great is if there were a command line program I could run to delete all pending subscription requests, is there such a thing? Regards, John Elliot V -- |_|O|_| ProgClub |_|_|O| Because every programmer needs a good club! |O|O|O| https://www.progclub.org/

1 week, 3 days

Can we make lists invite only?

by John Elliot V | ProgClub

Hi there. I've been using Mailman 2.1 for ages and I love it but recently I have a problem with thousands of messages per day from spammers sending subscription requests. On the Privacy options section I set 'advertised' to 'No' and 'subscribe_policy' to 'Require approval' but that doesn't work to stop the subscription emails. Is there a way to make a list 'invite only'? I tried to find such an option but was unable to do so... Regards, John Elliot V -- |_|O|_| ProgClub |_|_|O| Because every programmer needs a good club! |O|O|O| https://www.progclub.org/

1 week, 6 days

Non-ascii characters missing from Pipermail archive txt and gz downloads

by Mark Dale

Apologies for double posting. I sent this to the MM3 list by mistake earlier. Mailman 2.1.34 Debian 10 Postfix Hi I'm hoping someone can shine a light on character encoding issue I've encountered. A plain-text email with non-ascii characters in the body gets posted to the list. As per Mark Sapiro's guide I've captured the incoming message to file. - https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg73469.html The message is received by Mailman with the non-ascii characters displaying correctly. The header of that message has: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In the list's mbox file and archive webpage, the message displays the non-ascii characters correctly. In the archive's downloaded .txt (and also .gz) file, the non-ascii characters are missing and displayed as "?". I've copied the message text in below, from both the correct one from the email and the erroneous .txt file. Hopefully they won't get scrambled up when I send this. Any advice on getting the non-ascii characters written into the archive .txt file would be gratefully received. Thanks, Mark === Message text as okay in mbox and as shown on the archive webpage === If one goes by the definition of veḷippaṭai as given in the Tamil Lexicon that the meaning of an ambiguous word should be disambiguated by a qualifying word, then aruvi āmpal does not conform to that definition since in the case of aruvi āmpal in Patiṟṟuppattu 63, aruvi is really made up of aru+vi, a compound. Moreover, the expression aṭai aṭuppu aṟiyā is already there to clarify that āmpal is a number and not a flower. Thus, aruvi simply provides information in addition to aṭai aṭuppu aṟiyā that āmpal is not a flower. The modern commentator Aruḷampalavaṉār also does not call it veḷippaṭai. === === Message text with missing characters in te archive's txt and gz downloads == If one goes by the definition of ve?ippa?ai as given in the Tamil Lexicon that the meaning of an ambiguous word should be disambiguated by a qualifying word, then aruvi ?mpal does not conform to that definition since in the case of aruvi ?mpal in Pati??uppattu 63, aruvi is really made up of aru+vi, a compound. Moreover, the expression a?ai a?uppu a?iy? is already there to clarify that ?mpal is a number and not a flower. Thus, aruvi simply provides information in addition to a?ai a?uppu a?iy? that ?mpal is not a flower. The modern commentator Aru?ampalava??r also does not call it ve?ippa?ai. ===

2 weeks, 1 day

Trying to see list activity without archives.

by Bader, Robert (Bob)

I figured there is not a way to do this but thought I would ask. We usually don’t want archives on our lists (do not want to deal with archives), but want a way to see what lists are not being used. Is there a way to see list activity like last message for a list? Not even content of the message maybe just when the list last processed a message. I have come across lists that users are not using so I would like to be able to audit to see when a list was last used. We are on mailman2 but going to mailman3.

2 weeks, 1 day

Trying too decipher uncaught bounce notification

by Bader, Robert (Bob)

I think I know what is happening , but I want to make sure. A bunch of my list admins are getting bounces like below? I think it is someone or probably a BOT, trying to subscribe to our lists, But they are using a bad email address so it bounces to the admin. (Our lists are set to confirm/approve for joining). I assume they are just trying to join any lists that don’t have confirm/approve to see if they can then get the users of the list, maybe, What else could they be trying to do? I have seen a couple of different bad emails addresses used, so I just can’t ban this one, I am telling list admins to ignore them. But if they get worse I think they can set this setting to “NO” Should Mailman send you, the list owner, any bounce messages that failed to be detected by the bounce processor? Yes is recommended. (Details for bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner) Which would stop these notifications? But it is recommended to leave it to “yes”. Any other options ideas? Am I on the right track? Here is a bounce example with our list info stripped. *********************************** Error: Invalid user address Error message below: 550 - Requested action not taken: no such user here Message details: Subject: confirm 174c7e02aa6603b72ba30e59c5e24c7fceebd826 Sent date: Wed Apr 14 23:08:48 UTC 2021 MAIL FROM: XXX-software-XXX-bounces(a)mailman.XXX.XXX RCPT TO: 17323547559(a)vtext.com<mailto:17323547559@vtext.com> From: < XXX-software-XXX-request@ mailman.XXX.XXX > To: <17323547559(a)vtext.com<mailto:17323547559@vtext.com>> Size: 11.3 KiB

2 weeks, 3 days

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