Mailman 3 - Mailman-Users

is Beta 9 imminent?
by Kendall Clark 28 Feb '99

28 Feb '99

All, I've had serious problems getting Mailman to run under RH Linux 5.2 with Beta 8. Can someone make a Beta 9 fro what's in CVS? If Beta 9 isn't imminent, I'm gonna have to go back to Majordomo, and I'd *hate* to have to do that. Thanks. Kendall Clark

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"Permission denied" errors when queueing message
by Brian Ryner 28 Feb '99

28 Feb '99

Hi- I'm attempting to set up MailMan 1.0b8 on a Slackware 3.2 system, with Python 1.51. The CGI interface works fine, the only thing that doesn't is when it tries to queue a message to send. The output from the error log is below. I can't figure out which file it is trying to open and getting "permission denied". I'm also not that familiar with Python, so if someone could help me out here it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Feb 23 13:05:03 1999 contact_transport: IOError writing outgoing queue exceptions.IOError/(13, 'Permission denied') contact_transport: Traceback (innermost last): contact_transport: File "/home/mailman/scripts/contact_transport", line 58, in ? contact_transport: queue_id = OutgoingQueue.enqueueMessage(from_addr, to_addrs, text) contact_transport: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 143, in EnqueueMessage contact_transport: f = Utils.open_ex(fname, "a+", -1, QF_MODE | stat.S_ISUID) contact_transport: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 664, in open_ex contact_transport: reraise(IOError, e) contact_transport: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 659, in open_ex contact_transport: fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms) contact_transport: IOError : (13, 'Permission denied') -Brian Ryner bryner(a)uiuc.edu

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Information in other languages
by Baranyai Laszlo 28 Feb '99

28 Feb '99

Dear Mailman Users, Even though I have a mailing list managed by mailman, I am still a beginner. It works fine, but everything is in English. I can change the HTML code and add some Hungarian explanation in the digest/mail header. Can I change the standard header text in the message body (about the internet address, administrator's e-mail address, topics,...)? I was looking for templates as it is presented for HTML pages but found none. Do I have to make (compile) all scripts if I want to change these things? Thank you for your help. Regards, Laszlo Baranyai ___________________________________________________________________________ Association of Hungarian PhD Students University of Horticulture & Food H1146 Budapest, Ajtosi Durer sor 19-21 Department of Physics & Control http://www.phd.hu H1118 Budapest, Somloi u. 14-16. dosz(a)phd.hu, iroda(a)phd.hu T.: (+36-1)-372-6200/6020

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1.0b8 problems on RH 5.2
by Kendall Clark 28 Feb '99

28 Feb '99

Reply-To: All, First Mailman is cool. Thanks. I've got it installed correctly, afaict. Sendmail runs as GID 12 on my RH 5.2 box. I configured mailman --with-mail-gid=12. I can create new lists, but no mail to a list ever gets delivered. I've attached the message that bounces back. I'm also quoting here from $PREFIX/logs/error: Feb 22 13:31:42 1999 post: Traceback (innermost last): post: File "/home/mailman/scripts/post", line 65, in ? post: current_list.Post(msg) post: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1143, in Post post: recipients.remove(members) post: NameError : recipients I followed the thread about 'messages disappearing silently' and the gid/popen() troubles on Linux. I don't *think* that's the problem here; I tired both of Wes's 'workaround' fixes, and neither of them worked. Mail fails in just the same way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Kendall Clark, Document Guy The Casbah Project ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test" (expanded from: <test(a)casbah.org>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/post", line 65, in ? current_list.Post(msg) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1143, in Post recipients.remove(members) NameError: recipients 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"... unknown mailer error 1

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new install error - 404 + newbie
by Joshua Udall 28 Feb '99

28 Feb '99

I get the new install error, Arrg. Looking at the archives, my cgi-bin directory looks good. I wondering about the configuration of apache. I'm running RH 5.2 Sparc linux. I added this to my srm.conf file: # Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server will # require it to be present in the URL. So "/icons" isn't aliased in this # example. Alias /icons/ /home/httpd/icons/ Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ # ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts. # Format: ScriptAlias fakename realname ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ Is that the only modifications needed to the apache configuration. I didn't touch httpd.conf or access.conf I restarted apache with: /usr/sbin/httpd stop /usr/sbin/httpd/start Could someone also expound on the following in the REAME file. I'm not sure how to configure for symbolic links: But this is for archives ... Consult your Web server's documentation for details. Also be sure to configure your Web server to follow symbolic links in this directory, otherwise public Pipermail archives won't be accessible. Thanks for any and all help. Josh

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zope-users list on Starship and qmail hints
by Christian Tismer 26 Feb '99

26 Feb '99

This is a message to the qmail users, which will now find a list qmail-users(a)starship.python.net since we have a quite nice Zope test bed on the starship now. The list is maintained by Chris Petrilli. Why is this interesting for the mailman list? Starship uses qmail. With qmail, every user has his own mailboxes, and he can handle everything like myname-other@site from his myname home directory. This is great. For Mailman, it is very bad, since ti gives you headaches whenever you want to set up a mailman list named zope-users, when a user zope is also existent. Problem: putting .qmail redirections into zope's home doesn't work, since you can of course spawn the Mailman wrappers, but they will complain because they want to be run from the mailer's GID, not your's. Solution: in /var/qmail/users/assign put the following lines: +zope-:alias:112:11:/var/qmail/alias:-:zope-: . (there must always be a single dot line). This tells qmail that every address beginning with "zope-" is not handled by zope, but by the alias user. The alias user runs under the correct GID, and its .qmail-default uses the /etc/aliases.cdb, which is what we need. cheers - chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:tismer@appliedbiometrics.com> Applied Biometrics GmbH : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 101 : *Starship* http://starship.python.net 10553 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net PGP Fingerprint E182 71C7 1A9D 66E9 9D15 D3CC D4D7 93E2 1FAE F6DF we're tired of banana software - shipped green, ripens at home

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Re: [Mailman-Users] error compiling CVS copy from a few minutes ago
by Vivek Khera 26 Feb '99

26 Feb '99

>>>>> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us> writes: BAW> Please let me know how it goes! The copy from CVS seems to work ok... I did have a *lot* of confusion with restricting posting to only list members. It seems that the only way to make an "only members allowed to post" list is to set "members_post_only" to yes, *and* put anything into the box below it to allow other specific addresses to post. I just added "nobody(a)no.where". If I set members_post_only to yes and leave the other box blank, anyone can post. If I set members_post_only to no and leave the other box blank, *nobody* can post. I suspect others will have similar problems with the terminology used, unless this is a bug ;-) Personally, I think if members_post_only is set to yes, then *only* members should be allowed to post regardless of the setting of the additional posters list. This is a very common setting for mailing lists (at least mine ;-) Thanks! I really like the HTML interface to config the lists... much easier than anything else out there. Now, the only feature missing for me is an option to bounce messages rather than forcing them on the moderator. v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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error compiling CVS copy from a few minutes ago
by Vivek Khera 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

I went to compile the CVS current copy from a few minutes ago. The file common.c has the following compiler error on BSD/OS 4.0: gmake[1]: Entering directory `/u/sources/local/email/mailman-cvs/mailman/src' gcc -c -I. -DPREFIX="\"/opt/mailman\"" -DPYTHON="\"/usr/contrib/bin/python\"" -DHELPFUL -g -O2 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_SETREGID=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYSLOG_H=1 -DGETGROUPS_T=gid_t -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 ./common.c ./common.c: In function `run_script': ./common.c:145: `logident' undeclared (first use this function) ./common.c:145: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ./common.c:145: for each function it appears in.) gmake[1]: *** [common.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/u/sources/local/email/mailman-cvs/mailman/src' It is not clear to me what the proper string here should be, perhaps it should be the variable 'script'? I configured with "./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=nogroup" v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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Mailman & QMail
by Martin Preishuber 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

Hi there, I've just installed Mailman 5 times without too great success ... I guess the problem is qmail-related ... The installation went fine (I used configure --prefix=/home/users/mailman --with-mail-gid=qmail --with-cgi-gid=nobody which seems to be correct) but mailman just doesn't send any mail ... when I create a new list with newlist, it doesn't do anything (at least there's nothing in the maillog) plus when subscribing to a mailinglist, the mail gets forwarded to list@host but then there's nothing again ... could anyone give me some hint, what I'm doing wrong ? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Preishuber - Student, ECLiPt Core Member, SysAdmin http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at, mailto:Martin.Preishuber@stuco.uni-klu.ac.at Some rise by sin and some by virtue fall.

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what's the best config for an announce-only list?
by Vivek Khera 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

I have three mailing lists that are announce-only. That is, anyone can sign up, but only a fixed handful of people are allowed to post to the lists. Under SmartList, I have it set up that anyone who is not authorized to post gets a "you are not authorized" message. The best I see in Mailman (1.0b8) is to make the list moderated. But in this case, someone has to go in and manually toss the messages. I don't see an equivalent flag for a user of "do not allow posting". Is anyone else using Mailman to handle announce-only lists like this? What configuration have you used? Related to this, one of the lists has about 70,000 members and is generated prior to posting from an SQL database. Does anyone have a command-line utility one can use to *replace* the current users list with those from a file? It seems to me that the users are stored in a db file... Thanks. v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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