Pierre Igot wrote:
I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The
version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9.
(It's 2.1.2.)
See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.021.htp>
I've just started experimenting with mailing lists on this server
using Mailman. Things worked fine until I actually got to the stage
of mass-subscribing a series of nearly 500 email addresses.I used the web-based Mailman interface to submit the list of 500
email addresses for new subscribers, through the "Mass Subscription"
web form. I just copied the list of email addresses (separated by
return chars) from a text editor and pasted it in the field and
submitted. My mistake (I think) was that I submitted the entire list
of 500 email addresses at once. Initially it SEEMED to work, i.e. I
got a confirmation page listing all the subscribers that had been
added to the list.
Yes, it worked. The hangup was probably because of trying to send notifications.
But then I became unable to access the admin page for the list
altogether. The server would simply not respond. I could still access
other parts of the web-based Mailman interface, but not the pages for
this particular list.After a bit of on-line research, I discovered that the problem was
probably due to "locks" in the/var/mailman/locks/
folder. Indeed, when I looked inside that folder, I found a whole
series of files named:enseignants.lock enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.421.1 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7150.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7166.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7216.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7228.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7286.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7470.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7696.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7819.0 enseignants.lock.www.cprp.ca.7918.0
("www.cprp.ca" is my server and "enseignants" is the name of the list)
Yes, the problem was these locks.
The instructions for dealing with this were not exactly clear, so I
just removed all these files so that the "locks" folder was empty.
After that, I was able to access the list's admin pages again. So I
thought everything was good.Then I tried to send a message to my subscribers. (It's a receive- only list, so I'll be the only one sending messages.) However, the
message that I sent never got sent to the mailing list's subscribers.After more online research, I found out that my message was actually
stuck inside the/var/mailman/qfiles/in/
folder. I also found that I could force Mailman to send the message
by using the command:/usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -r All
So the mailmanctl daemon and the qrunners aren't running unless you start the qrunners manually as above, but this isn't the way to do it.
If you had done
/usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start
you wouldn't have had to kill the qrunners.
That worked and the message got sent out to the list (although I then
had to control-C the process to return to the prompt).But I find that this now happens every time I want to send a message.
The message never gets sent automatically as expected. Instead, it
gets stuck in that /qfiles/in/ folder and I have to run the qrunner - r All command to get it sent.This never happened with this list before I added the 500 subscribers
and had to fiddle with the /locks/ folder. Prior to that, when I was
still in the stage of testing the mailing list with only a handful of
test subscribers, everything worked fine and the messages would get
sent automatically.
I think in Mac OSX server, Mailman is installed as a service and the service runs mailmanctl. Somehow you have stopped the service and you need to restart it.
My suspicion is that the problem is due to what I did in the /locks/
folder, that maybe I wasn't supposed to remove all the files. (I have
kept them on a local disk in case I need to move them back to that
folder.)
I doubt that removing the locks had anything to do with it, but you might check ALL of Mailman's log files to see what kinds of errors and other conditions occurred.
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