On 2/27/20 11:24 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
Who decides that there will be no more releases of MM2 from the GNU Mailman project?
I do. I am the release manager and the only one making releases so I get to decide.
I've got to be honest, Mailman 3 still looks unstable to me. I get that it's working on python.org where there are people working on it day after day, but surely you realize there are a ton of Mailman2 sites that don't have the time to develop and maintain their own install day after day. Look at the MM3 list, there are people who do nothing but offer full time Mailman hosting and they have problem after problem. And then there's the whole "I don't need a CMS for a MLM" argument. I personally believe there's a lot more life left in MM2 than a few people want to admit.
That's all well and good, but MM 2.1 is stable product that works. Why does it need added/changed features at this point?
OK, there's the Python2 EOL issue, but python2 isn't disappearing overnight, certainly not this month or next (as you say the case should be with MM2).
Where do you get the idea that I said MM 2 will be disappearing? I never said that. I just said there will be no further releases after 2.1.30.
This list will not go away, and I will not stop reading/responding until the need for that goes away assuming I live that long
I guess I'm just still a bit shocked to see you rush to abandon something so popular and established.
I'm not rushing to abandon anything. I'm just saying don't expect Mailman 2.1.31 from the GNU Mailman project.
Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be a lot of support for that.
If you want to port Mailman 2 to Python 3, you are welcome to do it. I have said before that a much better use of time and resources would be the implementation of a light weight, non-Django web UI for Mailman 3, but I don't see anyone raising a hand to do either.
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