Mark,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:
On 2/1/21 6:07 AM, steve lund wrote:
I don't believe that the ISP changed the list configuration recently. So
if
this is NOT a DMARC issue then any other thought as to what it could be?
DMARC mitigations are list settings set by the list admin (you) via the web admin UI, not by the ISP.
Found that page. It was set to Munge.
Also remember that for some unexplained reason I, as the list manager, didn't receive the intervening bounce messages either. I don't know if these tripped Gmail's "throw it out" SPAM filter or something else happened.
Go to the web admin UI Bounce Processing page. Are all the notifications set to Yes? If so, and you are not receiving The notification on disable or the notification on bounce increment if that is on, and your address is correct for owner on the General Options page, then see below.
While troubleshooting this the ISP guy subscribed one of his bogus email addresses to the list to see if I would get the bounce messages. So far I did get one of them but Gmail put it in my SPAM box. I drug the message to my Forums tab where hopefully when it happens again I will see it.
So it seems the notices are being sent and delivered to your spam folder. You will need to regularly check that folder for these messages, or you MAY (I'm not an expert on this) be able to create a filter in Gmail to deliver them to some other folder, assuming Gmail filters trump
spam
. For purposes of filtering, these messages areFrom: mailman@<list domain> To:
-owner@<list domain> Subject: Bounce action notification
Previously, i.e. 6 months ago I was getting these notifications just fine through my Gmail account. This tells me that the list config is correct. I can't explain why these went from no bounce notifications only unsubscribe to now being sent to SPAM folder. Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters!
These notices contain a copy of the bounce DSN and are the only way short of MTA logs that you will know why the messages are bouncing.
If I had to guess though, the next most likely thing after DMARC is the sending server was blacklisted by some recipient domains.
This is what I was afraid of. Is there any way of confirming or denying that this is happening. ISP guy complained about having to tell Yahoo the mail server was a mail list and not SPAM. This would tell me that it was a blacklist problem.
So how does an ISP keep their mail server OFF of the SPAM blacklist?
Thanks, Steve
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