June 5, 2001
5:37 a.m.
"PH" == Peter Hamilton <survey@hamil.org> writes:
PH> Hi folks, At the Association of C & C++ Users, we run 25
PH> Majordomo mailing lists, these will be gradually moving over
PH> to Mailman.Cool! Be sure to let me know if you want to be listed under
http://www.list.org/inthenews.html:)
PH> Whilst running a couple of small lists for a local Caving
PH> club, a few issues came to light (whilst reading this bear in
PH> mind that unlike ACCU members, most of the Cavers are very
PH> much at the novice level with regard to email). Currently I'm
PH> running v2.0.3.
| The confirm message:
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PH> I've modified verify.txt, most users found the original
PH> wording confusing. It now emphasizes the simplest way to
PH> confirm - hit reply button (but make sure the Subject line is
PH> etc, etc..).This has been rewritten for MM2.1, and hopefully clarified.
| Listinfo:
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PH> listinfo.html was also modified, as several users complained
PH> they were confused about the Admin address and Password boxes
PH> for viewing the subscriber list ("do I have to type something
PH> in these boxes to subscribe?" they ask). This, and the
PH> question about batched mail I've removed. People were
PH> checking the daily digest button, then complaining about
PH> receiving mail only once a day!Do you mean the address/password boxes for private rosters?
PH> These are tweaks that beginners found useful, personally I
PH> found the default templates fine (I'm NOT suggesting changes
PH> to the distribution!).Okay, but if you have suggestions, I'm happy to look at them!
| Internet Mail Service (some sort of MS mailer?):
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| This broke the Subject line into two lines like so:
PH> Subject: RE: Wcms-announce -- confirmation of subscription
PH> -- request 6715 58I've seen reports of this before, and it could get worse in MM2.1 since the cookie is longer now. I should probably just shorten it to "confirm <cookie>".
| Outlook Express:
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PH> The default installation of Outlook Express seems to send
PH> all text as a text/plain attachment, plus a text/html
PH> attachment. If subscribers don't return the default Subject:
PH> line (and try to use "confirm 330970" in the message body
PH> instead), Mailman can't understand the attachments and fails
PH> to confirm.Yeah, I really want to get some sort of demimeing support into MM2.1. We'll see...
PH> This problem was easy to fix by putting a mime stripper
PH> program into the request address alias entry (already do this
PH> to prevent viruses and attachments in the discussion lists).
PH> This strips out the html and flattens the text attachment to
PH> non-attached, allowing confirms to work correctly.
PH> Features for Mailman 3 For me, the most useful feature on the
PH> Mailman todo list would be user accounts with multiple email
PH> addresses. It would be nice to have everything accessable
PH> under a single username and password (all mailing list
PH> subscriptions, and with a bit of custom scripting, website
PH> password protected areas, club subscription details, etc).Yep, no question, that'll be the biggest feature of 3.0.
-Barry