So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts?
/jim
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Dory <james@dorydesign.com> wrote:
We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it for public service announcements, people use it for selling/trading virtually anything (seal oil, outboards, guns, blue berries, you name it) and is by subscription only.
If someone is not a member, they cannot post. When a member posts, it goes to all others subscribers.
Any suggestions on how to answer this:
Here is the threat (hopefully I've removed personal emails from it):
Hello,
These cross promotion posts from your mailing list will need to cease or we will not host you any further. We have mounting complaints from AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail with some of which are now blocking the server you're on specifically because of your mailings. This is not isolated to a single set of users complaining it's a large amount that is enough for these providers to take action. Here's an example of Hotmail complaining today:
X-HmXmrOriginalRecipient: < <tylerwcase@hotmail.com>snip> X-Reporter-IP: 72.169.153.180 X-Message-Guid: e33ffe03-30cf-11e6-80b9-00215ad73ee2 x-store-info:qAUQJzZ73IJCLUJ+0n7ZQ5Y+hDtA5T0pTzngeWExSOA+js5BQ3esJZEb/ hCqmGYMGDPlv0qhfifSNEBY0EeR7jdY3RHpNqJWr7fgFVdKgCT42ZLOh4B1Z k6HwMHyTEbaui0SFrS8NYUVpqQ8zI3RRBiLXYw949+B Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; spf=pass (sender IP is 198.252.106.58) smtp.mailfrom=nome-announce-bounces@nomekennelclub.com; dkim=pass header.d=nomekennelclub.com; x-hmca=pass header.id= nome-announce-bounces@nomekennelclub.com X-SID-PRA: nome-announce-bounces@nomekennelclub.com X-AUTH-Result: PASS X-SID-Result: PASS X-Message-Status: n:n X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MztHRD0zO1NDTD00 X-Message-Info: JfKzZGNUCEyn6uZ8X2pDbY1Het57KTCuLVm3gAtPdrrl2td44M/ wLebIq7P6BcKz/Tq4wTZhsfxggLRurC3yAI0ChdmMAEfJOhmwoMRSeeGJKozFC4gVqbNvnZC/ JhgCd5qsAtqr0OEAYRu3koPQ9+cHL4uRNZS9J27uZshkoH4/ X3ayvdoeyUE3YWcyuTkswynceRDw4BygQavICoswKj/9XZAZvRBbI8WuiznTMQZuGiccxghTG g== Received: from lax022.relay.arandomserver.com ([198.252.106.58]) by COL004-MC1F11.hotmail.com <http://col004-mc1f11.hotmail.com/> over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23143); Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:15 -0700 Received: from lax203.hawkhost.com ([198.252.106.68]) by se003.arandomserver.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces@nomekennelclub.com>) id 1bCAcC-0005mK-IL; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:00:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomekennelclub.com; s=default; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List- Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Content-Transfer- Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent- Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Owner; bh=jDxrwQr0jmM9xViPdGyM4bH+/6rwqwLFUVYvxTlafm8=; b=u8TyeCVecKwnVNP0kCePP0Pnct XmAtx/ijufED+WEE6l444ssMce/LGKCBwpEcIN/3vBoK6dkCkh3JmivH0aA9HrZyrcelF o27GFKbV 1sZYQQDokwaGP4YHL4iEx0Si5AY8JCBkFgFh1BKIXUvlYq2M0CYpEO4nYcc5hUNIpArs=; Received: from [::1] (port=42021 helo=lax203.hawkhost.com) by lax203.hawkhost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces@nomekennelclub.com>) id 1bCAc7-000pSR-SI; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:03 -0700 From: nome-announce-request@nomekennelclub.com Subject: Nome-announce Digest, Vol 50, Issue 29 To: nome-announce@nomekennelclub.com Reply-To: nome-announce@nomekennelclub.com Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: < mailman.1.1465758001.197313.nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com@nomekennelclub.com
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AOL:
Subject: [NA] New/unused 2014 90hp Evinrude e-Rec for sale From: Roy Ashenfelter via Nome-announce <nome-announce@nomekennelclub.com> Date: 6/13/2016 3:54 AM To:
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