On 10/23/20 12:12 AM, H Ian Zhang wrote:
we are testing a new mailing list (our provider currently makes Mailman 2.1.33 available).
On the "General Options" page for the list, there is the setting "Send monthly password reminders?"
We set this to "No" when we configured the list (before we had any subscribers).
Now we have a few test subscribers. When they log in to their respective subscription pages, they will find the setting "Get password reminder email for this list?"
And in all observed cases this is set to "Yes".
The sending of password reminders depends on three things.
this is not run preiodically by cron in the installation, password reminders will not be sent for any list.
for that list. If it is No, no reminders will be sent for that list.
member can opt out on their user options page by setting the option to No, but if either the installation or list are not sending reminders, they cannot opt in.
Similarly, on the "Digest Options" page there is the setting "When receiving digests, which format is default?"
And regardless of whether this is set to "Plain" or "Mime", subscribers logging in to their respective subscription pages will see there the same parameter invariably set to "Mime".
The user's option for MIME or plain digests should be set according to the lists Digest options -> mime_is_default_digest setting when the user first subscribes. Subsequent changes to mime_is_default_digest will not affect existing users. Also, this setting for a user is only meaningful if the user is receiving digests.
If you are saying that a newly subscribed user gets set to MIME digests regardless of the setting for mime_is_default_digest at the time of subscription, perhaps this is some local modification of your particular hosted Mailman. It is not the way standard GNU Mailman works.
In terms of logic, this is an unsatisfactory situation:
either, if the general settings overrule individual setting, then subscribers are being misled, because they think they have choices when they actually don't,
I agree in the case of password reminders, but it's been that way for many years and I have seen few if any reports of confusion. Most subscribers who want to control this, want to turn reminders off, not on.