Even Cpanel should let Mailman dump out the user lists for you. There is a Mailman commandline that specifically does that (list_members).
The command to dump out your configuration to text is config_list.
Your admin can dump the config out, edit the fields that change (URL and default host names - the list name, if that changes) then simply create a list with the same name and upload the config file using config_list again. It's almost a "no brainer" once you read the help that comes with config_list.
Good Luck - Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 23:16, Pastor Augie wrote:
Jon,
thanks for your reply. I've passed along your message to my ISP - he's pretty responsive... we'll see what he says.
Unfortunately, we *do* use cPanel ... and this is NOT the first problem we've had... funny you should mention that! Sometimes our messages get stuck in queue and don't come out for days if at all.
Anyway, I don't have command line access and am not even sure where the files for mailman are. They don't appear to be in our user directory. If you could tell me the name of the file to look for, I could direct the sysadmin to look for it.
But just double checking - there is no way to export email addresses and names? Then it would be a simple matter to re-import them.
Thanks for all your help!
Augie.
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:41 PM To: pastor@SavingGraceLC.org Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] changing ISP servers
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 10:33, Pastor Augie wrote:
Hello,
I have several mailman lists setup. Because of technical difficulties with our ISP's physical server, I am being required to migrate our entire website, including lists, to a new server (new IP and new name). My ISP contact tells me that when the mailman lists are moved to the new server they will need to be RECREATED FROM SCRATCH!!
Is that the case? What is the most desirable way to migrate to a new server? Is there a simple export feature or some flat (or db) file I can export or something like that so I don't have to recreate the list by hand?? Thanks in advance for your help.
Augie.
Well, if they are using a straight version of Mailman then the answer is false. It's very easy to move lists to a new server.
It may be that they are actually using Cpanel (or will be using Cpanel). This app does "who-knows-what" to Mailman. Actually we know a few things it does, thanks to the many, many complaints we receive on a regular basis from folks stuck using Cpanel.
Even then, the movements of the lists can be relatively painless - if they allow you command line access to dump out your list configurations into text files.
Good luck - Jon Carnes