Hi, Okay I give up. I am attempting to create a mail list called testing but I receive the error below. What are the proper permissions for /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ ? # ls -dl /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ drwxr-s--x 131 mailman mailman 3072 Feb 28 16:18 /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ ---- snip ---- May 31 20:40:33 2007 admin(27921): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(27921): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(27921): [----- Traceback ------] admin(27921): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(27921): main() admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(27921): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 190, in process_request admin(27921): mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost) admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 493, in Create admin(27921): self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 404, in InitVars admin(27921): baseclass.InitVars(self) admin(27921): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 96, in InitVars admin(27921): os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) admin(27921): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/testing.mbox' admin(27921): [----- Python Information -----] ---- snip ---