Dear Brad, Mark, Dragon and others
Further to this problem.... (some user's mailings to the list are sent to the list with a blank body), I have taken your advice.......
At 21:58 31/5/06, you wrote:
Check your settings. Have the user send you a message directly, then use whatever techniques your MUA allows you to have to see all the messy headers and MIME body structure. If you don't have an MUA that lets you see all that, you'll need to get an MUA that will.
The direct message from my user, Jonathan, is copied below. Can anyone see why Jonathan's mailings would be sent to the list with a blank body?
Many thanks for any advice, and please word your reply for a biffo Nigel
From ???@??? Sun May 07 11:28:46 2006 Return-path: <Jonathan's email address> Envelope-to: secretary@healheadingley.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 06 May 2006 21:35:55 +0100 Received: from hopeful9 by colo16.ukhost4u.com with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FcTVJ-0006H7-Tt for secretary@healheadingley.org.uk; Sat, 06 May 2006 21:35:55 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on colo16.ukhost4u.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [65.54.168.37] (helo=hotmail.com) by colo16.ukhost4u.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FcTVJ-0006H1-Gk for secretary@healheadingley.org.uk; Sat, 06 May 2006 21:35:53 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 May 2006 13:36:01 -0700 Message-ID: BAY113-F2775CB9724C4ED7D753A17D2AA0@phx.gbl Received: from 65.54.168.200 by by113fd.bay113.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 May 2006 20:35:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.252.224.13] X-Originating-Email: [Jonathan's email address] X-Sender: Jonathan's email address From: "Jonathan" <Jonathan's email address> To: secretary@healheadingley.org.uk Bcc: Subject: Re: Blank replies Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 20:35:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2006 20:36:01.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFFD3CE0:01C6714C]
<x-html> <html><div style='background-color:'><P><BR><BR></P> <DIV class=RTE> <P>Hi Nigel, </P> <P>Re Sent my reply email a few mins ago and it's blank again!! Shame, as its a good one!</P> <P>The Bcc I sent to myself was fine, so it seems to be something wrong at your end.</P> <P>Below is a copy of the the email text I am trying to send!!</P> <P>Regards</P> <P>Jonathan</P> <P>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</P> <DIV> <P>Value of Cost?<BR><BR>Could this (proposed?!) car park development in an inner city urban green space, seemingly either to help car travelers to park in someone else's back-yard and/or to raise income for a Department of the Council, and certainly in contradiction of any Sustainable Development Policy that the Council is apparently signed up to, be summed up as the councilors concerned knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing, or maybe I have missed something here?</P> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Alan, in response to your email; there is trust in people, trust in community involvement, trust in councilors and trust in local government and trust in the need to defend the environment against all the vagaries of human decision making systems. </DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>There always seems to be a hidden interest (unintentionally, overt or not) trying to bulldozing through what community, green space and local environments we have left! It seems to be part of 20th Century's man and woman governance that we need to stop!</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Perhaps we could suggest that the Leeds Millennium Square be turned into a tarmac car park and deny its view and space to public use?. That would look lovely! And they want to do this to our open park spaces in the inner city! Back off! </DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Regards </DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Jonathan</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #a0c6e5 2px solid"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>
<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Rich T <followfoucault@gmail.com></I><BR>Reply-To: <I>for local activists <activists@healheadingley.org.uk></I><BR>To: <I>a.slomson@leeds.ac.uk,for local activists <activists@healheadingley.org.uk>,William McKinnon <mackius@mac.com></I><BR>CC: <I>justchill@tiscali.co.uk, isobelsidebottom@hotmail.com,barrie.payne1@virgin.net, activists@healheadingley.org.uk,Christine Bethlehem <chris.bethlehem@ntlworld.com></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [activists] Woodhouse Moor Car Park Proposal - Oliver Cross article</I><BR>Date: <I>Fri, 05 May 2006 11:18:26 +0100</I><BR>>Alan, you're absolutely right - and this point has been raised<BR>>frequently at Headingley Forum. Unfortunately, despite the coverage<BR>>of our area by bottom-up groups, the Council remains committed to<BR>>top-down - and often, not even that. Richard T<BR>><BR>>At 08:12 05/05/2006, Alan Slomson wrote:<BR>> >This story, the story of the Headingley Run last Sunday, and the problems with<BR>> >Headingley Stadium have a common feature: inadequate consultation of local<BR>> >people by the Council. This seems to me to be a systematic failure which needs<BR>> >to be addressed over and above concerns about particular cases.<BR>> ><BR>> >Councillors are busy people, often doing full time jobs on top of<BR>> >Council work,<BR>> >so the problem needs to be dealt with at the level of Council officers.<BR>> ><BR>> >Given that in the area there are a number of well established community groups<BR>> >with fairly well defined spheres of interest, and that electronic<BR>> >communication<BR>> >is now so easy, it should not be difficult to develop a system where community<BR>> >groups get frequent advance notice of matters that might be of<BR>> >concern to them.<BR>> >Once such a system has been established, it should not take too much effort to<BR>> >operate. But, perhaps more importantly, both Council officials and Councillors<BR>> >need to be firmly committed to this sort of early consultation, and<BR>> >that has to<BR>> >be a real will to implement it.<BR>> >--<BR>> >Alan Slomson<BR>> >20 Grosvenor Park Gardens<BR>> >Leeds<BR>> >LS6 2PL<BR>> >e-mail: a.slomson@leeds.ac.uk<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Quoting William McKinnon <mackius@mac.com> on Fri 05 May 2006 07:06:29 BST:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Dear Friends of Woodhouse Moor<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Oliver Cross had a very interesting article in last Friday's YEP about the<BR>> > > proposed car park. In case you didn't see it, I've attached it to this<BR>> > > email.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Regards.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Bill McKinnon<BR>> > > 225 2700<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > PS. Mr Cross was one of those who attended last Thursday's drop-in.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>><BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>--<BR>>activists mailing list<BR>>activists@healheadingley.org.uk<BR>>http://mail.healheadingley.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/activists_healheadingley.org.uk<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P> </P> <P><BR><BR> </P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>
<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Heal Secretary <secretary@healheadingley.org.uk></I><BR>To: <I>"Jonathan" <Jonathan's email address></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: Blank replies</I><BR>Date: <I>Sat, 06 May 2006 20:32:35 +0100</I><BR>>Hi Jonathan<BR>>Thanks for letting me know about this.<BR>>I've just got back from holiday (Why does something odd always have <BR>>to happen when I'm away!)<BR>>I've no idea what this is, but I'll look into it. It may take me a <BR>>bit of tinkering to diagnose the problem.<BR>>I see what you mean about the blank email - I got it too.<BR>>Can you please re-send your message, to the Activists? Please let me <BR>>know if it works this time.<BR>>Many thanks<BR>>Nigel<BR>><BR>><BR>>At 14:26 5/5/06, you wrote:<BR>><BR>>>Hi,<BR>>><BR>>>am I being gaged or is something wrong technically?. When I sent a <BR>>>reply to the acitivist list today ( Re: [activists] Woodhouse Moor <BR>>>Car Park Proposal) the email reply was blank. Is it something with <BR>>>Richard T's email??<BR>>><BR>>>On the blank email was a subscribtion link, which I have tried and <BR>>>I since gor an email saying that an attempt was made to subscribe ( <BR>>>it was me!!)<BR>>><BR>>>Please help as I want to contribute.<BR>>><BR>>>Thanks<BR>>><BR>>>Jonathan<BR>>>07906 973 370<BR>><BR>>Secretary of Heal<BR>>Campaigning for a Sustainable Balanced Community<BR>>www.healheadingley.org.uk<BR>><BR>>If you want to post items of interest to Headingley residents, use <BR>>the Message Board on the web site<BR>><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div></html>
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