Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote:

I changed my mm_cfg.py to read as last two lines:

SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0

This does no harm, but putting those lines in mm_cfg.py doesn't really do anything as you are just resetting them to the same values they already have from Defaults.py.

I have since run /etc/init.d/mailman restart, which responded as follows:

fyrenice:/etc# /etc/init.d/mailman restart Restarting mailman queue runner: mailmanShutting down Mailman's master qrunner No child with pid: 17469 [Errno 3] No such process Stale pid file removed. Starting Mailman's master qrunner.

This indicates that Mailman may have been improperly shut down in the past (maybe from your crash?). Now, do 'ps -fAw | grep python' or however you spell that on your system. You should see exactly one mailmanctl process and exactly 8 qrunner processes with names ArchRunner, BounceRunner, CommandRunner, IncomingRunner, NewsRunner, OutgoingRunner, VirginRunner and RetryRunner. If this is not what you see, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.068.htp> for a procedure that will clean things up.

Also, are you still getting the same smtp-failure entries when Mailman sends, and are you getting any log messages from smtplib in Mailman's 'error' log?

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