Re: [Mailman-Users] approval of post questions
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:16:55 -0400 Scott R Every <scott@emji.net> wrote:
the web approval page keeps timing out. is anyone running large moderated lists wth 2.0b2? should i switch to 1.1?
What MTA are you using? Quite simply, I would not recommend anything but QMail or Postfix.
In ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py or ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py set both MAX_SPAWNS and SMTP_MAX_RCPTS high, the latter as high as yuor MTA will take.
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Is your MTA configured to do host lookups or other address verification (other than being sytacically correct) on all connections/addresses? If so, configure it NOT do lookups on localhost and all local IPs, and to cease checking addresses for other than syntactic correctness.
If you telnet to localhost on the SMTP port, how long does it take before the MTA's welcome message appears? If more than a fraction of a second, check for other DNS settings, and anything like TCP Wrappers or other security filters.
If your MTA is logging thru syslogd, make sure that the entries in /etc/syslog.conf for the MTA are set to not sync on each write (a '-' before the path).
Check any MTA settings related to system load, # of messages receieved in a single connection, # of recipients per message etc, and set appropriately.
-- J C Lawrence Internet: claw@kanga.nu ----------(*) Internet: coder@kanga.nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...
Well, I'm using sendmail 8.9.3. I have many lists running through it with mj 1.94.4 with no problems other than its slow. The problem I am having here is that the approval page times out and the mail is never being sent. is the cgi script sending the actual mail or just approving so another program can send it?
its just seems weird that the cgi would send the mail itself.
i am going to get postfix running this weekend to see if it helps. let me know if you have other suggestions.
thanx
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 12:41 PM -0700 J C Lawrence <claw@cp.net> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:16:55 -0400 Scott R Every <scott@emji.net> wrote:
the web approval page keeps timing out. is anyone running large moderated lists wth 2.0b2? should i switch to 1.1?
What MTA are you using? Quite simply, I would not recommend anything but QMail or Postfix.
In ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py or ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py set both MAX_SPAWNS and SMTP_MAX_RCPTS high, the latter as high as yuor MTA will take.
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Is your MTA configured to do host lookups or other address verification (other than being sytacically correct) on all connections/addresses? If so, configure it NOT do lookups on localhost and all local IPs, and to cease checking addresses for other than syntactic correctness.
If you telnet to localhost on the SMTP port, how long does it take before the MTA's welcome message appears? If more than a fraction of a second, check for other DNS settings, and anything like TCP Wrappers or other security filters.
If your MTA is logging thru syslogd, make sure that the entries in /etc/syslog.conf for the MTA are set to not sync on each write (a '-' before the path).
Check any MTA settings related to system load, # of messages receieved in a single connection, # of recipients per message etc, and set appropriately.
-- J C Lawrence Internet: claw@kanga.nu ----------(*) Internet: coder@kanga.nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
Quoting J C Lawrence (claw@cp.net):
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Almost certainly *not*. If you run it through inet, it has to start up and parse its configuration files every single time it recieves an email. If runing as a daemon, it's got the config files parsed already before the mail even hits it.
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody "The Americans have said ``Ni'' and they want their shubbery" - Harry Teasley predicts a Bush victory, 8Mar2000
sorry, forgot to answer this...sendmail is runnign standalone. i get too much mail traffic to use inetd.
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 3:47 PM -0400 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> wrote:
Quoting J C Lawrence (claw@cp.net):
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Almost certainly *not*. If you run it through inet, it has to start up and parse its configuration files every single time it recieves an email. If runing as a daemon, it's got the config files parsed already before the mail even hits it.
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody "The Americans have said ``Ni'' and they want their shubbery" - Harry Teasley predicts a Bush victory, 8Mar2000
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
OK, switched to postfix and am now getting this error: May 4 16:37:18 penguin postfix/local[6292]: A3EE02F01E: to=<overtons_html@mail. overtonsonline.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (Command died with sta tus 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post
didn't see a README.POSTFIX. any suggestions?
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 3:55 PM -0400 "Scott R. Every" <scott@emji.net> wrote:
sorry, forgot to answer this...sendmail is runnign standalone. i get too much mail traffic to use inetd.
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 3:47 PM -0400 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> wrote:
Quoting J C Lawrence (claw@cp.net):
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Almost certainly *not*. If you run it through inet, it has to start up and parse its configuration files every single time it recieves an email. If runing as a daemon, it's got the config files parsed already before the mail even hits it.
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody "The Americans have said ``Ni'' and they want their shubbery" - Harry Teasley predicts a Bush victory, 8Mar2000
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
to further elaborate after fixinf the GID error, I am now getting this error in the mailman/logs/smtp file: May 04 16:53:38 2000 (8003) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
I get 2 of these each time i post.
s
--On Thursday, May 4, 2000 4:51 PM -0400 "Scott R. Every" <scott@emji.net> wrote:
OK, switched to postfix and am now getting this error: May 4 16:37:18 penguin postfix/local[6292]: A3EE02F01E: to=<overtons_html@mail. overtonsonline.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (Command died with sta tus 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post
didn't see a README.POSTFIX. any suggestions?
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 3:55 PM -0400 "Scott R. Every" <scott@emji.net> wrote:
sorry, forgot to answer this...sendmail is runnign standalone. i get too much mail traffic to use inetd.
s
--On Friday, April 28, 2000 3:47 PM -0400 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> wrote:
Quoting J C Lawrence (claw@cp.net):
Is your MTA running as a daemon or thru inetd? (should be runnign thru inetd for minimal startup time)
Almost certainly *not*. If you run it through inet, it has to start up and parse its configuration files every single time it recieves an email. If runing as a daemon, it's got the config files parsed already before the mail even hits it.
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody "The Americans have said ``Ni'' and they want their shubbery" - Harry Teasley predicts a Bush victory, 8Mar2000
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
Quoting Scott R. Every (scott@emji.net):
to further elaborate after fixinf the GID error, I am now getting this error in the mailman/logs/smtp file: May 04 16:53:38 2000 (8003) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
What does your mail log say?
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody We'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
May 4 16:53:38 penguin postfix/local[7996]: 3C77D2F01E: to=<overtons_html@mail. overtonsonline.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/home/mailman/mail/wra pper post overtons_html")
or basically nothing...nothing in the syslog or other mailman logs.
s
--On Thursday, May 4, 2000 6:44 PM -0400 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> wrote:
Quoting Scott R. Every (scott@emji.net):
to further elaborate after fixinf the GID error, I am now getting this error in the mailman/logs/smtp file: May 04 16:53:38 2000 (8003) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
What does your mail log say?
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody We'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
still getting the following for every email that tries to get through mailman's wrapper program: May 09 02:12:55 2000 (24811) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
i have verified that i can send and receive mail using postfix. i've also re-installed both postfix and mailman, but i still get the same error.
any ideas
tia
s
--On Thursday, May 4, 2000 8:48 PM -0400 "Scott R. Every" <scott@emji.net> wrote:
May 4 16:53:38 penguin postfix/local[7996]: 3C77D2F01E: to=<overtons_html@mail. overtonsonline.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/home/mailman/mail/wra pper post overtons_html")
or basically nothing...nothing in the syslog or other mailman logs.
s
--On Thursday, May 4, 2000 6:44 PM -0400 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> wrote:
Quoting Scott R. Every (scott@emji.net):
to further elaborate after fixinf the GID error, I am now getting this error in the mailman/logs/smtp file: May 04 16:53:38 2000 (8003) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
What does your mail log say?
-- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com>, not speaking for anybody We'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Scott R. Every - mailto:scott@emji.net EMJ Internet - http://www.emji.net voice : 1-888-258-8959 fax : 1-919-363-4425
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