Hello,
Is there an easy way for a list admin to check how many messages are being sent out for a given list?
Thanks, Crile
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Crile Carvey writes:
Is there an easy way for a list admin to check how many messages are being sent out for a given list?
The basic answer is "Mailman doesn't keep statistics like that but you can easily compute them from the Mailman and MTA logs."
But why do you want to know? We need to know because the question as phrased is ambiguous. You might want to know
- how many posts are received and distributed per time period, or
- how many members are receiving each post, or
- how many times Mailman contacts the local MTA for each post, or
- how many times Mailman contacts the local MTA in a given time period, or
- how many times the local MTA delivers locally plus contacts to remote MTAs for each post, or
- how many times the local MTA delivers locally plus contacts to remote MTAs in a given time period.
And I'm not sure that's all the useful ways to interpret your request. But probably not all of them are useful to you (maybe none of them are! :-)
Steve
Thanks to all for your suggestions. Stephen, thanks for the narrowing questions. Actually, what I was looking for was an easy way to analyze mailman / MTA activity. But I have since learned that mailman is just not made to be easy ;-). I was hoping there was some basic reporting functionality baked in, but obviously this is not the case. I did eventually find what I needed by querying the MTA logs.
Crile
-----Original Message----- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:stephen@xemacs.org] Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:51 AM To: Crile Carvey Cc: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Simple statistics
Crile Carvey writes:
Is there an easy way for a list admin to check how many messages > are being sent out for a given list?
The basic answer is "Mailman doesn't keep statistics like that but you can easily compute them from the Mailman and MTA logs."
But why do you want to know? We need to know because the question as phrased is ambiguous. You might want to know
- how many posts are received and distributed per time period, or
- how many members are receiving each post, or
- how many times Mailman contacts the local MTA for each post, or
- how many times Mailman contacts the local MTA in a given time period, or
- how many times the local MTA delivers locally plus contacts to remote MTAs for each post, or
- how many times the local MTA delivers locally plus contacts to remote MTAs in a given time period.
And I'm not sure that's all the useful ways to interpret your request. But probably not all of them are useful to you (maybe none of them are! :-)
Steve
Crile Carvey writes:
But I have since learned that mailman is just not made to be easy ;-).
That depends on what you want to be "easy". Mailman 2 is basically a complete rewrite of the internals of Mailman 1, but the program's goals and assumptions, and therefore the basic specification, are unchanged from its origin almost 20 years ago. The goal was to make managing lists of addresses, especially for "open subscription" lists, as simple as possible. The assumption was that the site admin would have the expected skills such as log-bashing, and access to those logs.
Mailman 3 has relaxed a lot of those assumptions based on FAQs over the last couple of decades, but one thing that nobody has thought much about AFAIK is collecting metrics on the Mailman service itself. (Some people are pretty excited about trying to turn Mailman into an SNS and collecting metrics about people and lists, but that's not the same thing.)
You can help us a lot by posting a description of what metrics you wanted (and maybe a bit about why). If you can get your hands dirty and actively help with the design, <mailman-developers@python.org> is the place to go. If your time is limited but you can give this one thing a shot, do post here on <mailman-users@python.org>. We hope that that will encourage other users to post their stories, use cases, ideas, and requirements.
Regards, Steve
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