Start a new thread" button doesn't work - Mailman3.0.2 Panel

Hi Experts, We setup mailman3 using bundler. Now, we are facingissue with by clicking new thread button. That’s, after click create new thread and clicksend button by typing some texts, it shows message sent successfully. But, nothing is appearing inmailman admin panel. Please help and fix the issue. Already posted in gitlab mailman forum. no response last 3 days till now. Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (#58) · Issues · mailman / HyperKitty
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Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio

On 03/13/2016 08:19 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
Hi Experts, We setup mailman3 using bundler. Now, we are facingissue with by clicking new thread button. That’s, after click create new thread and clicksend button by typing some texts, it shows message sent successfully. But, nothing is appearing inmailman admin panel. Please help and fix the issue. Already posted in gitlab mailman forum. no response last 3 days till now. Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (#58) · Issues · mailman / HyperKitty
Your issue in the gitlab tracker is the appropriate place for this. The mailman-users@python.org list is, of all the possibly appropriate places, the place least likely to be seen by people actively working on Postorius, Hyperkitty and Mailman 3.
There will very soon be a mailman-users@mailman3.org list for general questions. Until then, mailman-developers@python.org is a better place for those, and the gitlab issue trackers are probably the best place for specific issues.
Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
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-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply. We are running mailman 3.0.2 using bundler and we are facing couple of issue with this version. We are stuck with this issues. We are not sure which one is stable version in mailman to use it. Can you please tell me which mailman version is stable to setup it. If so, how can switch over or migrate my existing mailman 3.0.2 bundler to gitlab repository Your valuable reply is highly appreciated. Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:26 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 03/13/2016 08:19 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
Your issue in the gitlab tracker is the appropriate place for this. The mailman-users@python.org list is, of all the possibly appropriate places, the place least likely to be seen by people actively working on Postorius, Hyperkitty and Mailman 3.
There will very soon be a mailman-users@mailman3.org list for general questions. Until then, mailman-developers@python.org is a better place for those, and the gitlab issue trackers are probably the best place for specific issues.
Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
Content filtering on these lists removes most non-text parts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
I suspect you will get better results running Mailman Core from the git master branch. While I am backporting fixes to the 3.0.x branch and releasing that semi-regularly (e.g. 3.0.2) all new development, including the addition of new features previously missing, happen only on master. I expect that we'll release 3.1 by Pycon 2016.
I know that bundler provides 3.0.2 right now, but it shouldn't be too difficult to switch. The few folks I know running Mailman 3 in production are running Core off the git master branch.
Cheers, -Barry

My question is still not answered, can i do upgrade using gitlab individuals component to fix this issue. that is, Example hyperkitty version installed already using mailman bundler. but is it possible for me to do upgrade hyperkitty using gitlab individual component latest version will fix this issue? Please treat this urgent request and totally stagnant now.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:06 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry@list.org> wrote:
On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
I suspect you will get better results running Mailman Core from the git master branch. While I am backporting fixes to the 3.0.x branch and releasing that semi-regularly (e.g. 3.0.2) all new development, including the addition of new features previously missing, happen only on master. I expect that we'll release 3.1 by Pycon 2016.
I know that bundler provides 3.0.2 right now, but it shouldn't be too difficult to switch. The few folks I know running Mailman 3 in production are running Core off the git master branch.
Cheers, -Barry

On 03/21/2016 12:15 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
My question is still not answered, can i do upgrade using gitlab individuals component to fix this issue. that is, Example hyperkitty version installed already using mailman bundler. but is it possible for me to do upgrade hyperkitty using gitlab individual component latest version will fix this issue? Please treat this urgent request and totally stagnant now.
There is no easy answer to this. I am in the process of setting up a production Mailman 3 instance at lists.mailman3.org to support a mailman-users@mailman3.org list (not there yet). I'll outline what I did which may help you, but it wasn't easy.
I created a system user 'mailman' and a /opt/mailman directory owned by mailman.
I cloned mailman-bundler from gitlab into /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler.
I created no virtualenv. In the mailman-bundler directory as the 'mailman' user, I more or less followed <http://mailman-bundler.readthedocs.org/en/latest/>.
I set buildout.cfg for 'production' and ran buildout, not in a venv. I did 'sudo apt-get install ruby-sass' (this is on Ubuntu) I installed psycopg2 and set config stuff for both Django and Mailman to use PostgreSQL I installed gunicorn I configured postfix and nginx and set up mailman and gunicorn services, installed the Django crontab, ran ./bin/mailman-post-update, etc. (not necessarily in that order) and made a more or less working installation with most of the software in /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs and /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4 as created by bundler.
I assume this is where you are now.
My first step towards upgrading was to clone the mailman master branch from gitlab, activate the venv-3.4 virtualenv, run 'python3 setup.py install' in the cloned branch directory with the venv installed. Then in the venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages I removed the 3.0.2 'mailman' directory and created a symlink mailman -> mailman-3.1.0-py3.4.egg/mailman.
This then worked to use the core mailman from the gitlab master branch.
This was still not what I wanted, so I then cloned the gitlab master branches of mailman, mailman-hyperkitty, hyperkitty, mailmanclient and postorius and cd to each branch directory in turn and 'sudo command setup.py install' where 'command is python for mailmanclient, hyperkitty and postorius, and python3 for mailman and mailman-hyperkitty. This got almost everything installed system wide (I.e. in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ and /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/ instead of /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs and /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages.
The next step is the really tricky one. I verified that in the system Python 3.4, I could import the top level module of every package in /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages and then removed them all.
I did the same with Python 2 and the /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs directory, but here, there were a few things I couldn't find in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/, so I left them in eggs/. One is gunicorn-19.4.5-py2.7.egg, which I had originally installed with buildout and decided to just leave. The others are beautifulsoup4-4.4.1-py2.7.egg, mock-1.3.0-py2.7.egg, collective.recipe.cmd-0.11-py2.7.egg, pbr-1.8.1-py2.7.egg, djangorecipe-2.1.2-py2.7.egg, Whoosh-2.7.2-py2.7.egg, funcsigs-0.4-py2.7.egg, z3c.recipe.filetemplate-2.2.0-py2.7.egg and zc.recipe.egg-2.0.3-py2.7.egg. I think mock is just for testing and the zc stuff is for buildout and others may be unneeded, but I left them all.
I also did 'sudo pip3 install psycopg2' because I think both Python 2 and Python 3 versions are required.
I then went through all the scripts in mailman-bundler/bin and removed all the no longer present paths from the sys.path[0:0] = [ ... ] at the beginning.
I may be forgetting something, but I think that was it.
I may have run into a missing import or two, but they were easy to fix.
The only other thing is you end up here with Django 1.9 only, and the 'mailman-web-django-admin runjobs daily' job runs into "django.core.cache.get_cache was removed in Django 1.9 which breaks the daily cache_cleanup job." The fix is at <https://github.com/django-extensions/django-extensions/pull/827/commits/67c8...>.
I do not recommend this as an install from scratch procedure at all. I'm still figuring that one out, but if you already have a working install with bundler and want to upgrade it without discarding all the infrastructure already built, this may work for you.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

On 03/13/2016 08:19 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
Hi Experts, We setup mailman3 using bundler. Now, we are facingissue with by clicking new thread button. That’s, after click create new thread and clicksend button by typing some texts, it shows message sent successfully. But, nothing is appearing inmailman admin panel. Please help and fix the issue. Already posted in gitlab mailman forum. no response last 3 days till now. Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (#58) · Issues · mailman / HyperKitty
Your issue in the gitlab tracker is the appropriate place for this. The mailman-users@python.org list is, of all the possibly appropriate places, the place least likely to be seen by people actively working on Postorius, Hyperkitty and Mailman 3.
There will very soon be a mailman-users@mailman3.org list for general questions. Until then, mailman-developers@python.org is a better place for those, and the gitlab issue trackers are probably the best place for specific issues.
Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
Content filtering on these lists removes most non-text parts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply. We are running mailman 3.0.2 using bundler and we are facing couple of issue with this version. We are stuck with this issues. We are not sure which one is stable version in mailman to use it. Can you please tell me which mailman version is stable to setup it. If so, how can switch over or migrate my existing mailman 3.0.2 bundler to gitlab repository Your valuable reply is highly appreciated. Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:26 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 03/13/2016 08:19 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
Your issue in the gitlab tracker is the appropriate place for this. The mailman-users@python.org list is, of all the possibly appropriate places, the place least likely to be seen by people actively working on Postorius, Hyperkitty and Mailman 3.
There will very soon be a mailman-users@mailman3.org list for general questions. Until then, mailman-developers@python.org is a better place for those, and the gitlab issue trackers are probably the best place for specific issues.
Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio
Content filtering on these lists removes most non-text parts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/coolpilotscorpio%40yah...

On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
I suspect you will get better results running Mailman Core from the git master branch. While I am backporting fixes to the 3.0.x branch and releasing that semi-regularly (e.g. 3.0.2) all new development, including the addition of new features previously missing, happen only on master. I expect that we'll release 3.1 by Pycon 2016.
I know that bundler provides 3.0.2 right now, but it shouldn't be too difficult to switch. The few folks I know running Mailman 3 in production are running Core off the git master branch.
Cheers, -Barry

My question is still not answered, can i do upgrade using gitlab individuals component to fix this issue. that is, Example hyperkitty version installed already using mailman bundler. but is it possible for me to do upgrade hyperkitty using gitlab individual component latest version will fix this issue? Please treat this urgent request and totally stagnant now.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:06 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry@list.org> wrote:
On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
I suspect you will get better results running Mailman Core from the git master branch. While I am backporting fixes to the 3.0.x branch and releasing that semi-regularly (e.g. 3.0.2) all new development, including the addition of new features previously missing, happen only on master. I expect that we'll release 3.1 by Pycon 2016.
I know that bundler provides 3.0.2 right now, but it shouldn't be too difficult to switch. The few folks I know running Mailman 3 in production are running Core off the git master branch.
Cheers, -Barry

On 03/21/2016 12:15 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote:
My question is still not answered, can i do upgrade using gitlab individuals component to fix this issue. that is, Example hyperkitty version installed already using mailman bundler. but is it possible for me to do upgrade hyperkitty using gitlab individual component latest version will fix this issue? Please treat this urgent request and totally stagnant now.
There is no easy answer to this. I am in the process of setting up a production Mailman 3 instance at lists.mailman3.org to support a mailman-users@mailman3.org list (not there yet). I'll outline what I did which may help you, but it wasn't easy.
I created a system user 'mailman' and a /opt/mailman directory owned by mailman.
I cloned mailman-bundler from gitlab into /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler.
I created no virtualenv. In the mailman-bundler directory as the 'mailman' user, I more or less followed <http://mailman-bundler.readthedocs.org/en/latest/>.
I set buildout.cfg for 'production' and ran buildout, not in a venv. I did 'sudo apt-get install ruby-sass' (this is on Ubuntu) I installed psycopg2 and set config stuff for both Django and Mailman to use PostgreSQL I installed gunicorn I configured postfix and nginx and set up mailman and gunicorn services, installed the Django crontab, ran ./bin/mailman-post-update, etc. (not necessarily in that order) and made a more or less working installation with most of the software in /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs and /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4 as created by bundler.
I assume this is where you are now.
My first step towards upgrading was to clone the mailman master branch from gitlab, activate the venv-3.4 virtualenv, run 'python3 setup.py install' in the cloned branch directory with the venv installed. Then in the venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages I removed the 3.0.2 'mailman' directory and created a symlink mailman -> mailman-3.1.0-py3.4.egg/mailman.
This then worked to use the core mailman from the gitlab master branch.
This was still not what I wanted, so I then cloned the gitlab master branches of mailman, mailman-hyperkitty, hyperkitty, mailmanclient and postorius and cd to each branch directory in turn and 'sudo command setup.py install' where 'command is python for mailmanclient, hyperkitty and postorius, and python3 for mailman and mailman-hyperkitty. This got almost everything installed system wide (I.e. in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ and /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/ instead of /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs and /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages.
The next step is the really tricky one. I verified that in the system Python 3.4, I could import the top level module of every package in /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages and then removed them all.
I did the same with Python 2 and the /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/eggs directory, but here, there were a few things I couldn't find in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/, so I left them in eggs/. One is gunicorn-19.4.5-py2.7.egg, which I had originally installed with buildout and decided to just leave. The others are beautifulsoup4-4.4.1-py2.7.egg, mock-1.3.0-py2.7.egg, collective.recipe.cmd-0.11-py2.7.egg, pbr-1.8.1-py2.7.egg, djangorecipe-2.1.2-py2.7.egg, Whoosh-2.7.2-py2.7.egg, funcsigs-0.4-py2.7.egg, z3c.recipe.filetemplate-2.2.0-py2.7.egg and zc.recipe.egg-2.0.3-py2.7.egg. I think mock is just for testing and the zc stuff is for buildout and others may be unneeded, but I left them all.
I also did 'sudo pip3 install psycopg2' because I think both Python 2 and Python 3 versions are required.
I then went through all the scripts in mailman-bundler/bin and removed all the no longer present paths from the sys.path[0:0] = [ ... ] at the beginning.
I may be forgetting something, but I think that was it.
I may have run into a missing import or two, but they were easy to fix.
The only other thing is you end up here with Django 1.9 only, and the 'mailman-web-django-admin runjobs daily' job runs into "django.core.cache.get_cache was removed in Django 1.9 which breaks the daily cache_cleanup job." The fix is at <https://github.com/django-extensions/django-extensions/pull/827/commits/67c8...>.
I do not recommend this as an install from scratch procedure at all. I'm still figuring that one out, but if you already have a working install with bundler and want to upgrade it without discarding all the infrastructure already built, this may work for you.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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