emails with extension .se rejected
Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).
If I use any of my my Swedish email addresses (.se) my messages keep bouncing on account of "iajsdiscussionlist.org: DNS server failure." Yahoo groups intermittently has the same problem. However, in this case the messages just disappear. So I must use my google email address. I have always had this problem with my ".se" emails. Sometimes when posting to a journal, for instance, my message is regarded as spam. I suppose it has to do with the fact that ".se" is not a known American state.
I have also observed that messages from other contributors never arrive in my inbox, although they appear in the archive. But this occurs more rarely.
The list software also tends to corrupt messages in the archive by inserting digits instead of characters (for citation characters, etc.), when the user is *not* using plain text with "dumb" citation signs, etc. I suppose this has to do with the moderator copying a big message for the sake of reviewing, and then posting it without regard to the format.
In messages of mine, citation characters (right arrow) are sometimes randomly inserted. I use plain text that is line wrapped. Moreover, a drawback is that messages cannot be removed afterwards. I don't know how professors, concerned about their professional reputation, can tolerate this. After all, when partaking in discussion lists, we sometimes say things which we later regret, on account of changed views, for instance.
M. Winther
M Winther writes:
If I use any of my my Swedish email addresses (.se) my messages keep bouncing on account of "iajsdiscussionlist.org: DNS server failure." Yahoo groups intermittently has the same problem. However, in this case the messages just disappear. So I must use my google email address. I have always had this problem with my ".se" emails. Sometimes when posting to a journal, for instance, my message is regarded as spam. I suppose it has to do with the fact that ".se" is not a known American state.
This doesn't sound like it's related to Mailman at all, especially since other mail-related applications have the same problem on occasion. From what you write here, I can only suggest you talk to the admins of your mail host.
I have also observed that messages from other contributors never arrive in my inbox, although they appear in the archive. But this occurs more rarely.
This doesn't either.
The list software also tends to corrupt messages in the archive by inserting digits instead of characters (for citation characters, etc.), when the user is *not* using plain text with "dumb" citation signs, etc.
If it's possible to take a look at the archives, please let us know where to find them. I suspect that what you are describing is called "HTML entities", which are a way of describing any character in the world in a way such that any web browser can display it, no matter what language the computer speaks to its user. But I can't say without actually looking at the file.
I suppose this has to do with the moderator copying a big message for the sake of reviewing, and then posting it without regard to the format.
That's hard to say. You'd have to ask the moderator about that.
In messages of mine, citation characters (right arrow) are sometimes randomly inserted.
Would that happen to correspond to the case where the word "From" appears at the left margin? If so, that is not Mailman's doing. It is done by the mail system somewhere along the line. Again, a URL to a "corrupt" message would make further discussion a lot simpler.
I use plain text that is line wrapped. Moreover, a drawback is that messages cannot be removed afterwards. I don't know how professors, concerned about their professional reputation, can tolerate this. After all, when partaking in discussion lists, we sometimes say things which we later regret, on account of changed views, for instance.
The fact is that you cannot reliably retract anything once you've sent an email. You can't call it back, and arbitrarily many copies can be made for free. Furthermore, the recipient's copy or the archive copy is just as official as the sender's file copy. If you want control over the medium, use a blog. (Even then people can keep copies, but at least your copy is the official one.)
On 06/03/2014 10:02 PM, M Winther wrote:
Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).
This has been the archiver for Mailman since 1.0. It says nothing about your Mailman version.
If I use any of my my Swedish email addresses (.se) my messages keep bouncing on account of "iajsdiscussionlist.org: DNS server failure."
This is not a Mailman issue per se. It has to do with some MTA between you and iajsdiscussionlist.org. If I had to guess, I'd say that for some reason, the outgoing MTA for your .se addresses is unable to successfully find the MX and A records for iajsdiscussionlist.org.
Yahoo groups intermittently has the same problem. However, in this case the messages just disappear.
That's probably Yahoo discarding the message as spam.
So I must use my google email address. I have always had this problem with my ".se" emails. Sometimes when posting to a journal, for instance, my message is regarded as spam. I suppose it has to do with the fact that ".se" is not a known American state.
I doubt that.
I have also observed that messages from other contributors never arrive in my inbox, although they appear in the archive. But this occurs more rarely.
That is probably due to some filtering in your incoming mail chain.
The list software also tends to corrupt messages in the archive by inserting digits instead of characters (for citation characters, etc.), when the user is *not* using plain text with "dumb" citation signs, etc. I suppose this has to do with the moderator copying a big message for the sake of reviewing, and then posting it without regard to the format.
It has to do with the character set of the original message not being compatible with the Mailman character set of the list's preferred language.
In messages of mine, citation characters (right arrow) are sometimes randomly inserted. I use plain text that is line wrapped. Moreover, a drawback is that messages cannot be removed afterwards. I don't know how professors, concerned about their professional reputation, can tolerate this. After all, when partaking in discussion lists, we sometimes say things which we later regret, on account of changed views, for instance.
These are all things that can only be addressed by the administrators of the servers and Mailman installations that you are posting to.
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/2YA9>.
Part of the issue is probably that you are posting to English language lists and Mailman's character set for English is us-ascii. Thus non-ascii characters get garbled. Also, I don't know if this is your issue, but much email software, not just Mailman, inserts '>' in front of any line that begins with 'From ' to prevent it being interpreted as a *nix mailbox separator.
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