keep back mails of users
hi
i'm a beginner and i have a question. perhaps somebody of you know the answer.
i created a new list for mailman. now a want 2 kinds of users: the administrator.
- the first group should be able to send the mail directly to mailman and mailman should dispose the mail to the list members.
- the second group of users can send mails too. but the mail needs a release by
is this possible ?
how ?
thanks for help
best regards emmi
Hello!
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 02:31:53PM +0200, Martin Held wrote:
i'm a beginner and i have a question. perhaps somebody of you know the answer.
i created a new list for mailman. now a want 2 kinds of users: the administrator.
- the first group should be able to send the mail directly to mailman and mailman should dispose the mail to the list members.
- the second group of users can send mails too. but the mail needs a release by
is this possible ?
how ?
IIRC you can set a "moderated" flag individually for users.
All users that are *not* moderated have their mails passed through immediately, the others' contributions are held back and an administrator or moderator has to pass them through.
Kind regards,
Hannah.
Howdy all,
I have my mailman list set up as an E-Newsletter distribution list, i.e. only email that I approve goes out to the list.
I am seeing the following errors being repeated over and over in my /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp-failure log
delivery to joe@domain.com failed with code -1: Server not connected
I found a possible solution to this in mailman-users list: Write this line in your mm_cfg.py MTA = 'Postfix' SMTPHOST = 'aa.bb.cc.dd'
I already had the MTA line correct, but didn't have the SMTPHOST line. I've added that line.
My questions: 1) do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py? 2) Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an E-Newsletter type list)
Thanks, Mike
Bah, ok, I'm still having trouble with this. Some of the people on the list get the emails from the list, but a bunch of others get this error in smtp-failure like
delivery to joe@domain.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to jim@example.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to dave@stuff.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to amy@somesite.net failed with code -1: Server not connected ... and so on
I've tried that setting SMTPHOST '127.0.0.1' and SMTPHOST '10.0.0.1' and also it's MX ip address, and all result in the following error:
Low level smtp error: Server not connected, msgid: <20050829150816.EA2F933942@mail.mydomain.com>
Commenting out SMTPHOST gets rid of the above "Low level smtp" error, but the "Server not connected" errors continue.
My MTA is PostFix
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hanby Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:52 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] "Server not connected" in smtp-failure log
Howdy all,
I have my mailman list set up as an E-Newsletter distribution list, i.e. only email that I approve goes out to the list.
I am seeing the following errors being repeated over and over in my /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp-failure log
delivery to joe@domain.com failed with code -1: Server not connected
I found a possible solution to this in mailman-users list: Write this line in your mm_cfg.py MTA = 'Postfix' SMTPHOST = 'aa.bb.cc.dd'
I already had the MTA line correct, but didn't have the SMTPHOST line. I've added that line.
My questions: 1) do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py? 2) Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an E-Newsletter type list)
Thanks, Mike
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/flakrat%40yahoo.com
Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Ok, I think I've found the solution, I didn't need to mess with the SMTPHOST, since localhost works just fine. I commented that line out of my mm_cfg.py file.
The following was set in my Default.py file SMTPPORT = 0 I changed it to the following in my mm_cfg.py file SMTPPORT = 25
And now it looks as though it's working. Wonder why it was set to 0 in the Default file.
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hanby Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:53 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] "Server not connected" in smtp-failure log
Bah, ok, I'm still having trouble with this. Some of the people on the list get the emails from the list, but a bunch of others get this error in smtp-failure like
delivery to joe@domain.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to jim@example.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to dave@stuff.com failed with code -1: Server not connected delivery to amy@somesite.net failed with code -1: Server not connected ... and so on
I've tried that setting SMTPHOST '127.0.0.1' and SMTPHOST '10.0.0.1' and also it's MX ip address, and all result in the following error:
Low level smtp error: Server not connected, msgid: <20050829150816.EA2F933942@mail.mydomain.com>
Commenting out SMTPHOST gets rid of the above "Low level smtp" error, but the "Server not connected" errors continue.
My MTA is PostFix
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+flakrat=yahoo.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hanby Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:52 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] "Server not connected" in smtp-failure log
Howdy all,
I have my mailman list set up as an E-Newsletter distribution list, i.e. only email that I approve goes out to the list.
I am seeing the following errors being repeated over and over in my /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp-failure log
delivery to joe@domain.com failed with code -1: Server not connected
I found a possible solution to this in mailman-users list: Write this line in your mm_cfg.py MTA = 'Postfix' SMTPHOST = 'aa.bb.cc.dd'
I already had the MTA line correct, but didn't have the SMTPHOST line. I've added that line.
My questions: 1) do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py? 2) Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an E-Newsletter type list)
Thanks, Mike
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/flakrat%40yahoo.com
Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/flakrat%40yahoo.com
Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Mike Hanby wrote:
Ok, I think I've found the solution, I didn't need to mess with the SMTPHOST, since localhost works just fine. I commented that line out of my mm_cfg.py file.
The following was set in my Default.py file SMTPPORT = 0 I changed it to the following in my mm_cfg.py file SMTPPORT = 25
And now it looks as though it's working. Wonder why it was set to 0 in the Default file.
So in effect you've done nothing since SMTPPORT = 0 tells the python smtplib to use its default SMTP port which is port 25.
It may be that this is a transient issue between Mailman and the MTA causing the connection to drop.
-----Original Message-----
<snip>
My questions:
- do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py?
bin/mailmanctl restart
- Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an E-Newsletter type list)
If the error is considered a "temporary" failure by SMTPDirect, it will be automatically retried. If it is considered "permanent", it is treated as a "bounce".
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Damn, you are right. Although some of the emails did make it through after I restarted mailman, looking in the smtp-error log shows that I'm still getting "Server not connected" errors :-(
Shoot, anyone with Postfix (or another MTA) seen this problem?
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:11 To: Mike Hanby; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] "Server not connected" in smtp-failure log
Mike Hanby wrote:
Ok, I think I've found the solution, I didn't need to mess with the SMTPHOST, since localhost works just fine. I commented that line out of my mm_cfg.py file.
The following was set in my Default.py file SMTPPORT = 0 I changed it to the following in my mm_cfg.py file SMTPPORT = 25
And now it looks as though it's working. Wonder why it was set to 0 in the Default file.
So in effect you've done nothing since SMTPPORT = 0 tells the python smtplib to use its default SMTP port which is port 25.
It may be that this is a transient issue between Mailman and the MTA causing the connection to drop.
-----Original Message-----
<snip>
My questions:
- do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py?
bin/mailmanctl restart
- Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an E-Newsletter type list)
If the error is considered a "temporary" failure by SMTPDirect, it will be automatically retried. If it is considered "permanent", it is treated as a "bounce".
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mike Hanby wrote:
Damn, you are right. Although some of the emails did make it through after I restarted mailman, looking in the smtp-error log shows that I'm still getting "Server not connected" errors :-(
Shoot, anyone with Postfix (or another MTA) seen this problem?
There are a few other threads in the archives. See http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.python.org+inurl%3Amailman-users+...
In particular, in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-March/043447.html I suggested setting SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION to 1 and/or setting SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to some small number. I don't know if this helped or not.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
participants (4)
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Hannah Schroeter
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Mark Sapiro
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Martin Held
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Mike Hanby