Hello
My hosting doesn´t allow since mid August sending emails using BCC. I can send only 50 mails per hour. They recommend me to use mailman.
I would like to use mailman just for sending mails for one or two users of the list. the rest of the members won´t be allow. So they must be moderated.
yesterday i was trying, and this seems to work. the problems are:
- if i send the messages using BCC, that is all@mydomian.com they see undisclosed recipients and the message is sent by all-bopunces@mydomain.com. I don´t want users see all-bounces@mydomain.com. I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
_ Secondly if i sent in CC, they see all@mydomain.com. i don't want them to see that.
To sum up, i want that the list is something that they don´t know. how can i do that?
Best regards,
Borja
Best regards,
Borja
Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to *personalize* messages. In my Mailman that is the second option from the top in that screen. Set it to "Full Personalization". That should be all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
Then send your messages with
To: all@mydomain.com
From: borjariesgo@gmail.com (or borja@mydomain.com or ...)Mailman will *remove* "all@mydomain.com" and substitute each person's address in To:, in a separate email for each address. Then person@example.net will see
To: "M. A. Person" <person@xemacs.net>
From: borjariesgo@gmail.com(only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
Should we get rid of this page/FAQ entry http://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20hide%20the%20fact%20that%20I%27m%20u...
then? And talk about Full Personalisation instead?
Laura
Laura Creighton writes:
Should we get rid of this page/FAQ entry http://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20hide%20the%20fact%20that%20I%27m%20u...
then? And talk about Full Personalisation instead?
I think adding a mention of Full Personalization might be in order if that's all that is wanted. However, it appears to me that the original question that resulted in this FAQ entry wanted to completely eradicate Mailman from the headers, no List-*, no Sender, and maybe even no Received header mentioning that the message was apparently to a Mailman list. And that's a different kettle of fish.
My understanding of Borja's request is that he simply wants normal traffic to appear to go To the recipient From him, but that he's not concerned in completely hiding the presence of the list from people who know where to look.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
Laura Creighton writes:
Should we get rid of this page/FAQ entry "How do I hide the fact that I%27m using a mailing list management system?"
then? And talk about Full Personalisation instead?
I think adding a mention of Full Personalization might be in order if that's all that is wanted.
OK, I've done this and a little bit more; see:
http://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20hide%20the%20fact%20that%20I%27m%2\ 0using%20a%20mailing%20list%20management%20system%3F
WDYT?
Steve
In a message of Tue, 08 Sep 2015 01:41:16 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes:
http://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20hide%20the%20fact%20that%20I%27m%2\ 0using%20a%20mailing%20list%20management%20system%3F
WDYT?
Steve
Looks reasonable to me. By the way, CiviCRM advertises mailman integration. http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/Mailman+synchronization though I don't suppose we should be recommending any particular CRM.
Laura
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete=bossley.me@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 8:11 AM To: borjariesgo@gmail.com Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to *personalize* messages. In my Mailman that is the second option from the top in that screen. Set it to "Full Personalization". That should be all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
Then send your messages with
To: all@mydomain.com
From: borjariesgo@gmail.com (or borja@mydomain.com or ...)Mailman will *remove* "all@mydomain.com" and substitute each person's address in To:, in a separate email for each address. Then person@example.net will see
To: "M. A. Person" <person@xemacs.net>
From: borjariesgo@gmail.com(only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pete%40bossley.me
On 09/08/2015 02:32 PM, Peter Bossley wrote:
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
Mailman is not designed to hide the fact that its messages come from a mailing list. If a list is fully personalized, the list posting address is put in Cc: intentionally to facilitate replying to the list. This is a design decision and can only be changed by modifying the code in Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I think the easiest approach here is to simply set the list to FP, and live with the list address in the CC. At that point, you simply set everyone to moderated and set that action to discard. (I'm only using this for wedding updates anyway, and anyone that really knows where to look will find the list headers anyway.)
-----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete=bossley.me@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:09 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
On 09/08/2015 02:32 PM, Peter Bossley wrote:
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
Mailman is not designed to hide the fact that its messages come from a mailing list. If a list is fully personalized, the list posting address is put in Cc: intentionally to facilitate replying to the list. This is a design decision and can only be changed by modifying the code in Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pete%40bossley.me
Hello
I restart this thread again.
I'm coming in late here and most of this thread has been covered, but with respect to the above, the all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address is the list bounce processing address. Mailman sets the envelope sender and also the Sender: and Errors-To: headers to this value. If your users are seeing this address, it is probably because they are using a Microsoft mail client that displays something like "From: (the Sender: address) on behalf of (the From: address)".
Since Mailman 2.1.14, if a site allows it, there is a list admin General Options -> include_sender_header setting which can be set to No to not include the Sender: header. The all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address will still be the envelope sender and in the Errors-To: header, but most users won't see it.
--> anonymous_list to yes and first_strip_reply_to to yes. and without not success. this paramters are supposed to hide the sender and other parameters no? my version is 2.1.12. I shoyld ask to my isp to change it.
(Editar *anonymous_list*) http://lists.corodiocesano.es/mailman/admin/all/?VARHELP=general/anonymous_l...
Also see my other reply in this thread at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-September/079783.html.
--> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users will be able to reply.
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-08 23:32 GMT+02:00 Peter Bossley pete@bossley.me:
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete= bossley.me@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 8:11 AM To: borjariesgo@gmail.com Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to *personalize* messages. In my Mailman that is the second option from the top in that screen. Set it to "Full Personalization". That should be all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
Then send your messages with
To: all@mydomain.com From: borjariesgo@gmail.com (or borja@mydomain.com or ...)Mailman will *remove* "all@mydomain.com" and substitute each person's address in To:, in a separate email for each address. Then person@example.net will see
To: "M. A. Person" <person@xemacs.net> From: borjariesgo@gmail.com(only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pete%40bossley.me
On 09/28/2015 02:15 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote:
--> anonymous_list to yes and first_strip_reply_to to yes. and without not success. this paramters are supposed to hide the sender and other parameters no? my version is 2.1.12. I shoyld ask to my isp to change it.
anonymous_list = Yes will do its best to conceal the identity of the person who posted to the list. It makes no attempt to conceal the fact that the message came from a list.
--> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users will be able to reply.
I believe you are trying to do things that Mailman is not designed to do. If the people on your list do not know that they are on a list, How did they get there. Did they get there by confirmed opt-in or did you add them without their informed consent?
In your original post, you said
To sum up, i want that the list is something that they don´t know. how can i do that?
The answer is "mailman is not designed to do that". If you need to do that, you'll have to use something else.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I answer:
anonymous_list = Yes will do its best to conceal the identity of the person who posted to the list. It makes no attempt to conceal the fact that the message came from a list.
- --> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users *>* will be able to reply.
I believe you are trying to do things that Mailman is not designed to do. If the people on your list do not know that they are on a list, How did they get there. Did they get there by confirmed opt-in or did you add them without their informed consent?
In your original post, you said
- To sum up, i want that the list is something that they don´t know. how can *>* i do that?
The answer is "mailman is not designed to do that". If you need to do that, you'll have to use something else.
MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than 100 messages per hour. I have a music group with 100-150 people in it. I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in my ISP and the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman. I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that have users in the CCO. That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
may change the listname-bounces@domainname? i don´t like this. why is this created? what is the aim of this address?
i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the have to updte the cpanel
Best regards
Borja
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-28 11:15 GMT+02:00 Borja Riesgo Juan borjariesgo@gmail.com:
Hello
I restart this thread again.
I'm coming in late here and most of this thread has been covered, but with respect to the above, the all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address is the list bounce processing address. Mailman sets the envelope sender and also the Sender: and Errors-To: headers to this value. If your users are seeing this address, it is probably because they are using a Microsoft mail client that displays something like "From: (the Sender: address) on behalf of (the From: address)".
Since Mailman 2.1.14, if a site allows it, there is a list admin General Options -> include_sender_header setting which can be set to No to not include the Sender: header. The all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address will still be the envelope sender and in the Errors-To: header, but most users won't see it.
--> anonymous_list to yes and first_strip_reply_to to yes. and without not success. this paramters are supposed to hide the sender and other parameters no? my version is 2.1.12. I shoyld ask to my isp to change it.
(Editar *anonymous_list*) http://lists.corodiocesano.es/mailman/admin/all/?VARHELP=general/anonymous_l...
Also see my other reply in this thread at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-September/079783.html.
--> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users will be able to reply.
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-08 23:32 GMT+02:00 Peter Bossley pete@bossley.me:
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete= bossley.me@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 8:11 AM To: borjariesgo@gmail.com Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to *personalize* messages. In my Mailman that is the second option from the top in that screen. Set it to "Full Personalization". That should be all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
Then send your messages with
To: all@mydomain.com From: borjariesgo@gmail.com (or borja@mydomain.com or ...)Mailman will *remove* "all@mydomain.com" and substitute each person's address in To:, in a separate email for each address. Then person@example.net will see
To: "M. A. Person" <person@xemacs.net> From: borjariesgo@gmail.com(only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pete%40bossley.me
On 09/29/2015 07:05 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote:
MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than 100 messages per hour. I have a music group with 100-150 people in it. I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in my ISP and the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman. I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that have users in the CCO. That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
The FAQ article at http://wiki.list.org/x/4030685 explains how to set up such a list.
may change the listname-bounces@domainname? i don´t like this. why is this created? what is the aim of this address?
This address is used as the envelope sender and as the Sender: and Errors-To: header addresses to enable bounced mail to be returned to the listname-bounces address for Mailman's automated bounce processing.
i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the have to updte the cpanel
If you have issues with your hosting provider, there are plenty of others who offer current cPanel which includes Mailman 2.1.20.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you. i put something below:
- MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than *>* 100 messages per hour. *>* I have a music group with 100-150 people in it. *>* I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in *>* my ISP and *>* the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman. *>* I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that *>* have users in the CCO. *>* That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the *>* list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
On 09/29/2015 07:05 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote: *
The FAQ article at http://wiki.list.org/x/4030685 explains how to set up such a list. --> I did it. i want only two users to write to the list. how can i do for set-reply_goes_to_list? how can i do to reply to the user that write the mail?
- may change the listname-bounces at domainname https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users? i don´t like this. why is *>* this created? what is the aim of this address?
This address is used as the envelope sender and as the Sender: and Errors-To: header addresses to enable bounced mail to be returned to the listname-bounces address for Mailman's automated bounce processing. --> i imagine that i cannot delete it. is there any possibility? I don´t like this. i try to disable mailman's automated bounce processing and the list is still there.
- i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from *>* my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the *>* have to updte the cpanel
If you have issues with your hosting provider, there are plenty of others who offer current cPanel which includes Mailman 2.1.20.
-- Mark Sapiro https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-29 16:05 GMT+02:00 Borja Riesgo Juan borjariesgo@gmail.com:
I answer:
anonymous_list = Yes will do its best to conceal the identity of the person who posted to the list. It makes no attempt to conceal the fact that the message came from a list.
- --> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users *>* will be able to reply.
I believe you are trying to do things that Mailman is not designed to do. If the people on your list do not know that they are on a list, How did they get there. Did they get there by confirmed opt-in or did you add them without their informed consent?
In your original post, you said
- To sum up, i want that the list is something that they don´t know. how can *>* i do that?
The answer is "mailman is not designed to do that". If you need to do that, you'll have to use something else.
MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than 100 messages per hour. I have a music group with 100-150 people in it. I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in my ISP and the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman. I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that have users in the CCO. That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
may change the listname-bounces@domainname? i don´t like this. why is this created? what is the aim of this address?
i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the have to updte the cpanel
Best regards
Borja
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-28 11:15 GMT+02:00 Borja Riesgo Juan borjariesgo@gmail.com:
Hello
I restart this thread again.
I'm coming in late here and most of this thread has been covered, but with respect to the above, the all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address is the list bounce processing address. Mailman sets the envelope sender and also the Sender: and Errors-To: headers to this value. If your users are seeing this address, it is probably because they are using a Microsoft mail client that displays something like "From: (the Sender: address) on behalf of (the From: address)".
Since Mailman 2.1.14, if a site allows it, there is a list admin General Options -> include_sender_header setting which can be set to No to not include the Sender: header. The all-bounces at mydomain.com https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users address will still be the envelope sender and in the Errors-To: header, but most users won't see it.
--> anonymous_list to yes and first_strip_reply_to to yes. and without not success. this paramters are supposed to hide the sender and other parameters no? my version is 2.1.12. I shoyld ask to my isp to change it.
(Editar *anonymous_list*) http://lists.corodiocesano.es/mailman/admin/all/?VARHELP=general/anonymous_l...
Also see my other reply in this thread at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-September/079783.html.
--> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users will be able to reply.
Un saludo
Borja Riesgo borjariesgo@gmail.com
2015-09-08 23:32 GMT+02:00 Peter Bossley pete@bossley.me:
But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the CC: field to avoid people replying all.
-----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete= bossley.me@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 8:11 AM To: borjariesgo@gmail.com Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to *personalize* messages. In my Mailman that is the second option from the top in that screen. Set it to "Full Personalization". That should be all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
Then send your messages with
To: all@mydomain.com From: borjariesgo@gmail.com (or borja@mydomain.com or ...)Mailman will *remove* "all@mydomain.com" and substitute each person's address in To:, in a separate email for each address. Then person@example.net will see
To: "M. A. Person" <person@xemacs.net> From: borjariesgo@gmail.com(only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pete%40bossley.me
On 09/30/2015 04:36 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote:
Thank you. i put something below:
The FAQ article at http://wiki.list.org/x/4030685 explains how to set up such a list. --> I did it. i want only two users to write to the list. how can i do for set-reply_goes_to_list? how can i do to reply to the user that write the mail?
I understood that you wanted reply_goes_to_list to be "Explicit address" and reply_to_address to be your address so that replies to list posts go to you. You may also want first_strip_reply_to = Yes
This is covered in the above FAQ under "How to set an announcement list to reply to a contact address:"
If you want to reply to the poster who is unauthorized, that poster should be either a moderated member of the list or a non-member.
If you set Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> member_moderation_action to Reject the moderated member gets a rejection notice containing the text in member_moderation_notice. This is covered in the above FAQ under "How to restrict the list so only authorized persons can post:"
For non-members, the same is accomplished with generic_nonmember_action and nonmember_rejection_notice.
Posting to the list is also covered in the above FAQ.
...
This address is used as the envelope sender and as the Sender: and Errors-To: header addresses to enable bounced mail to be returned to the listname-bounces address for Mailman's automated bounce processing. --> i imagine that i cannot delete it. is there any possibility? I don´t like this. i try to disable mailman's automated bounce processing and the list is still there.
The only way to do this is by modifying the source code and your isp does not give you sufficient access to do that.
Note that it was your ISP that suggested you use Mailman for this. I think that a properly configured announcement list will do most if not all of what you need. If you don't think Mailman is a viable solution because of the exposure of the listname-bounces address by some mail clients, you need to negotiate with your ISP to install a later version which allows you to suppress the Sender: header or to provide some other solution.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 09/07/2015 02:47 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote:
- if i send the messages using BCC, that is all@mydomian.com they see undisclosed recipients and the message is sent by all-bopunces@mydomain.com. I don´t want users see all-bounces@mydomain.com. I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
I'm coming in late here and most of this thread has been covered, but with respect to the above, the all-bounces@mydomain.com address is the list bounce processing address. Mailman sets the envelope sender and also the Sender: and Errors-To: headers to this value. If your users are seeing this address, it is probably because they are using a Microsoft mail client that displays something like "From: (the Sender: address) on behalf of (the From: address)".
Since Mailman 2.1.14, if a site allows it, there is a list admin General Options -> include_sender_header setting which can be set to No to not include the Sender: header. The all-bounces@mydomain.com address will still be the envelope sender and in the Errors-To: header, but most users won't see it.
Also see my other reply in this thread at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-September/079783.html.
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