Hi,
I have set up an anonymous list - it's for announcements from a central team to subscribers only, no discussions.
It's all working great, exactly as required ... with one tiny problem.
The anonymous list correctly removes the details of who in the team sent
the message, and replaces it with the lists email address. I have been
asked to set this so that it is a specific name, rather than the
address. I.e, in their mail clients, users will see:
From: The company's biggest boss
instead of
From: announcements@example.com
Having spent some time looking, I'm fairly sure this isn't possible in mailman at the moment: the choices are either the mailing list, or the original sender. Can anyone confirm definitively? I am using version 2.1.2.
Thanks in advance,
Miles
Miles Waller wrote:
I have set up an anonymous list - it's for announcements from a central team to subscribers only, no discussions.
It's all working great, exactly as required ... with one tiny problem.
The anonymous list correctly removes the details of who in the team sent the message, and replaces it with the lists email address. I have been asked to set this so that it is a specific name, rather than the address. I.e, in their mail clients, users will see:From: The company's biggest boss
instead of
From: announcements@example.com
Having spent some time looking, I'm fairly sure this isn't possible in mailman at the moment: the choices are either the mailing list, or the original sender. Can anyone confirm definitively? I am using version 2.1.2.
You are correct. Those are the two choices unless you want to hack the code in Cleanse.py
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"Miles" == Miles Waller <miles@jamkit.com> writes:
Miles> The anonymous list correctly removes the details of who in
Miles> the team sent the message, and replaces it with the lists
Miles> email address. I have been asked to set this so that it is
Miles> a specific name, rather than the address. I.e, in their
Miles> mail clients, users will see:
Miles> From: The company's biggest boss
Miles> instead of
Miles> From: announcements@example.comThis is really a client-side (user) issue. The From: header by definition contains addresses. It may also contain an identifying string (ie, a "real name"), and comments. If you set the list's visible name to "The company's biggest boss", I would guess that mailman would format the From: header as
From: "The company's biggest boss" <announcements@example.com>
and if it doesn't, it should be easy to hack Mailman to get it to do so. The address itself is _not_ optional in Internet mail, and the "official" Mailman distribution will not support omitting it, I'm sure (ie, I would bet a large sum of money against a rather small amount of money -- it's not my decision to make).
Since most of the house-broken clients used on Windows and the Mac support displaying only the "real name" or comment, just sneak into the Biggest Boss's office and set his MUA to do that. You'll hear no more complaints.<wink>
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At 1:45 PM +0900 2004-11-01, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
The address itself is _not_ optional in Internet mail, and the"official" Mailman distribution will not support omitting it, I'm sure (ie, I would bet a large sum of money against a rather small amount of money -- it's not my decision to make).
You are right. The real e-mail address is not optional with Internet e-mail, and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about that. If you want Internet e-mail, then you have to have a real e-mail address. Otherwise, get something else.
Since most of the house-broken clients used on Windows and the Mac support displaying only the "real name" or comment, just sneak into the Biggest Boss's office and set his MUA to do that. You'll hear no more complaints.<wink>
Clearly, this is a presentation issue. Stephen has the right idea here that changing the boss's MUA so that it displays what he wants is the right way to solve this problem.
Of course, then this leads to other issues, such as people who may set their e-mail address to one thing, but put something else in the comments. For example, the e-mail address might be "miles@jamkit.com", but the comment might be "Biggest Boss". Now, anyone can spoof e-mail coming from anyone, without changing their e-mail address, only their comments.
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