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hi guys, I posted this message a couple of days ago but didn't get any satisfying answers.. neither did I find a good answer in the Faq cause it's too "technical" .. so here's my message again:
hi mailman guys .. my question is, I have a 100,000+ subscribers mailing list, and hosting it with godaddy.com (Celeron 2000, 2 GBs RAM) .. but they only allow 100,000 emails per day for each dedicated server, so I have to buy a new server now, and it's a bit expensive.. I found another cheap service, $30/month dedicated servers and they offer unlimited emails per day.. but its characteristics are a bit low: AMD, 512 MB RAM .. my question is, will mailman with such a huge list which is also rapidly growing work on such server? knowing that I only send 1 email newsletter a day to the list and none of the users can send to the list but me.. another question, is it easy to install mailman manually? cause in godaddy's control panel it's ready to install with 1 click.. but with the new cheap service I have to install it myself.. and is there a ready-to-install script that does everything automatically like that in the control panels? Thanks for everything mates ..
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- Khalil Abbas <khillo100@hotmail.com> wrote:
hi guys, I posted this message a couple of days ago but didn't get any satisfying answers.. neither did I find a good answer in the Faq cause it's too "technical" .. so here's my message again:
Actually, Brad Knowles' answer was quite good.
hi mailman guys .. my question is, I have a 100,000+ subscribers mailing list, and hosting it with godaddy.com (Celeron 2000, 2 GBs RAM) .. but they only allow 100,000 emails per day for each dedicated server, so I have to buy a new server now, and it's a bit expensive.. I found another cheap service, $30/month dedicated servers and they offer unlimited emails per day.. but its characteristics are a bit low: AMD, 512 MB RAM .. my question is, will mailman with such a huge list which is also rapidly growing work on such server? knowing that I only send 1 email newsletter a day to the list and none of the users can send to the list but me..
A day has 24 hours. Each hour has 60 minutes. Each minute has 60 seconds. That makes for a total of 86400 seconds per day.That means that you had to send out about 2 mails per second. Given a setting of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS of 500, that means that mailman would deliver about 200 mails to your MTA - non personalized, non VERP'ed. This is not a problem at all from an MTA's point of view (perhaps somebody with more knowledge of Mailman can, again, say something about Mailman's memory requirements with that many recipients). Even with default configurations and a rather poor DNS cache, I can't see a problem with that.
Now, you still have to do bounce processing - which again, with 100000 recipients, shouldn't be that much of a problem.
So given that you have a non-personalized list, don't do VERP, I'd say: Go for it.
If you need personalization or need to do VERP in Mailman: I'd say forget it.
Now if you want a more educated answer, review what Brad said.
another question, is it easy to install mailman manually? cause in godaddy's control panel it's ready to install with 1 click.. but with the new cheap service I have to install it myself.. and is there a ready-to-install script that does everything automatically like that in the control panels? Thanks for everything mates ..
Mailmans installation manual http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html is one of the most detailed and easy to understand writings I have ever seen.
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Khalil Abbas wrote:
hi guys, I posted this message a couple of days ago but didn't get any satisfying answers.. neither did I find a good answer in the Faq cause it's too "technical" .. so here's my message again:
I thought Brad's reply at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-May/061657.html> was very thorough. Perhaps you overlooked it because the Subject of your original post (and the reply) was "Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 55"
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Khalil Abbas writes:
I found another cheap service, $30/month dedicated servers and they offer unlimited emails per day.. but its characteristics are a bit low: AMD, 512 MB RAM ..
Brad already gave you the non-technical answer: no, very likely that is not going to work for you.
You should also consider that "cheap and unlimited" is a contradiction in terms. Such services are liable to (a) go out of business, (b) change the terms on you to avoid (a), or even (c) do (b), thus imposing additional costs on you to comply with the new terms, and then do (a) anyway because the change was too little, too late.
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This a follow-up to a quite old posting on this list. I just read something on postfix-users and feel that it is relevant for this question. The OP wanted to deal with a larger mail volume:
- Khalil Abbas <khillo100@hotmail.com> wrote:
hi mailman guys .. my question is, I have a 100,000+ subscribers mailing list, and hosting it with godaddy.com (Celeron 2000, 2 GBs RAM) .. but they only allow 100,000 emails per day for each dedicated server, so I have to buy a new server now, and it's a bit expensive..
On postfix-users, Wietse Venema and Victor Duchovni said about Postfix scalability:
Victor Duchovni wrote:
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 02:29:35PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
Without content filtering, a 5-year old single-CPU machine could do this easily. However, 1 million messages in a day of 50 kbyte each means you need 10+Mbit/s of network bandwidth.
Postfix on modern hardware, and a cooperative I/O subsystem, can handle a million messages an hour. [...]
I hope that this will offer some insight into what modern MTAs are capable off.
Cheers Stefan
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