Mailman 2.1.2 unsubscribe without confirmation action
Can the list owners send a command via email to unsubscribe users of a list that will NOT cause a confirmation email to be generated to the subscribers? We want to send an email to mailman to remove subscribers without requiring confirmation from the subscribed users. All settings I have tried still generate a confirmation email and subscriber interaction is required.
Thanks in advance
On 07/15/2016 09:34 AM, Montanez, Victor wrote:
Can the list owners send a command via email to unsubscribe users of a list that will NOT cause a confirmation email to be generated to the subscribers?
Only if the admin knows the user's list password. If so, the admin can send the command
unsubscribe users_password address=user@example.com
to the list's -request address, but it must be the user's list password. No other password will work.
A possible alternative is to set the list's Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> unsubscribe_policy to yes and send
unsubscribe address=user@example.com
to the list's -request address. This will result in the unsubscribe (all unsubscribes) being held for admin approval, but the admin can't approve the held unsubscribe by email, so tha probably won't help.
We want to send an email to mailman to remove subscribers without requiring confirmation from the subscribed users. All settings I have tried still generate a confirmation email and subscriber interaction is required.
You could consider patching Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py to accept the list admin password or some other secret as an alternate to the user's password. I think that's the only way.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Hello Mark,
For the possible alternative you mention below:
If we do set up the unsubscribe policy to "yes" and in the "unsubscribe MODERATORPASSWD address=user@example" command we include the moderator/owner password would that accomplish the removal of the user without confirmation?
A possible alternative is to set the list's Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> unsubscribe_policy to yes and send
unsubscribe address=user@example.com
to the list's -request address. This will result in the unsubscribe (all unsubscribes) being held for admin approval, but the admin can't approve the held unsubscribe by email, so tha probably won't help.
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On 07/15/2016 09:34 AM, Montanez, Victor wrote:
Can the list owners send a command via email to unsubscribe users of a list that will NOT cause a confirmation email to be generated to the subscribers?
Only if the admin knows the user's list password. If so, the admin can send the command
unsubscribe users_password address=user@example.com
to the list's -request address, but it must be the user's list password. No other password will work.
A possible alternative is to set the list's Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> unsubscribe_policy to yes and send
unsubscribe address=user@example.com
to the list's -request address. This will result in the unsubscribe (all unsubscribes) being held for admin approval, but the admin can't approve the held unsubscribe by email, so tha probably won't help.
We want to send an email to mailman to remove subscribers without requiring confirmation from the subscribed users. All settings I have tried still generate a confirmation email and subscriber interaction is required.
You could consider patching Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py to accept the list admin password or some other secret as an alternate to the user's password. I think that's the only way.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 07/15/2016 11:08 AM, Montanez, Victor wrote:
Hello Mark,
For the possible alternative you mention below:
If we do set up the unsubscribe policy to "yes" and in the "unsubscribe MODERATORPASSWD address=user@example" command we include the moderator/owner password would that accomplish the removal of the user without confirmation?
No.
The only password that has any meaning in that command is the user's list password.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you for the confirmation Mark.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 2:41 PM To: Montanez, Victor; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.2 unsubscribe without confirmation action
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On 07/15/2016 11:08 AM, Montanez, Victor wrote:
Hello Mark,
For the possible alternative you mention below:
If we do set up the unsubscribe policy to "yes" and in the "unsubscribe MODERATORPASSWD address=user@example" command we include the moderator/owner password would that accomplish the removal of the user without confirmation?
No.
The only password that has any meaning in that command is the user's list password.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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