Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-problems
June 17, 1999
1:33 a.m.
[arety@dolphinics.no]
I don't think so -- these are the much hated "internationalized" reply subject prefixes some MUA vendors decided their users needed.
As there are quite a lot of different languages out there, and as trying to be smart about these prefixes sooner or later will backfire (i.e. someone used a "SV:" prefix to indicate something other than a reply), I believe it best for Mailman to stay out of this snakepit.
I see the same problem when the subject-line is mime-encoded because some use non-ascii characters (which also is ugly in the archive).
Hmmmm.... I think it would be unwise to make Mailman dependent on any MIME-parsing python modules at this time, as the potential for screwups is rather big (and we'd _really_ like to get 1.0 out soon).
However, in theory, Mailman could decode these headers before checking whether the list prefix is present. Which means this is yet another post-1.0 improvement to make...
Harald
June 1999
3:08 a.m.
New subject: Internationalization (was Reply-problems)
arety@dolphinics.no recently posted regarding non-english versions of
"RE:' in the subject line:Harald Meland <Harald.Meland@usit.uio.no> observed:I agree that trying to build this into the server would not be
a good idea. But I do think this would be a good thing to add to
the list of "internationalization features" for future version. Just
as a Spanish speaking site should be able to change all of the
Mailman messages and text to meet local requirements, recognition of
things such as "RE:" detection could be parameterized so that the
local site could change it as they feel appropriate.
Actually something that is relatively easy to do with ListProc is
to change the default system welcome message sent out on a
list-per-list basis. I'm not talking about the list owner welcome,
but rather the generic welcome maintained by the site admin. It
thus is a simple matter to identify a given list as being a "Spanish
Language" list, and thus have a different global welcome file be
used. (Unfortunately the ListProc messages themselves are hardcoded.)
My point is, it might be worthwhile to have localization be
configurable on a list-by-list basis since I have seen list server
sites that support both English and Spanish language lists on the
same server.
Cordially,
The List Server Admin
list.admin@unh.edu
(currently Bill Costa)
June 1999
3:08 a.m.
New subject: Internationalization (was Reply-problems)
arety@dolphinics.no recently posted regarding non-english versions of
"RE:' in the subject line:Harald Meland <Harald.Meland@usit.uio.no> observed:I agree that trying to build this into the server would not be
a good idea. But I do think this would be a good thing to add to
the list of "internationalization features" for future version. Just
as a Spanish speaking site should be able to change all of the
Mailman messages and text to meet local requirements, recognition of
things such as "RE:" detection could be parameterized so that the
local site could change it as they feel appropriate.
Actually something that is relatively easy to do with ListProc is
to change the default system welcome message sent out on a
list-per-list basis. I'm not talking about the list owner welcome,
but rather the generic welcome maintained by the site admin. It
thus is a simple matter to identify a given list as being a "Spanish
Language" list, and thus have a different global welcome file be
used. (Unfortunately the ListProc messages themselves are hardcoded.)
My point is, it might be worthwhile to have localization be
configurable on a list-by-list basis since I have seen list server
sites that support both English and Spanish language lists on the
same server.
Cordially,
The List Server Admin
list.admin@unh.edu
(currently Bill Costa)
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