Confusion with Mailman3 Config
Hello everybody,
after installing mailman3 successfully (took me 5 evenings), I'm now confused about the configuration. I'm using postorius, which is very nice and where I'm able to configure the most stuff. Today I figured out, how to change the default email templates for domains/list in the filesystem.
But now, I like to change the default language of a list from English to German, so that the German templates are selected.
I found some hint in URL: https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.html, where they use a command line (mailman client or mailman shell?) to change the language during creation.
This does not work for me, but the mayer point is, that I got lost between the different kinds of interfaces. It seems, that there are:
- Rest server API - start via ".local/bin/ipython3" in my environment?
- Rest client API - start via "ipython" ?
- mailmanclient / mmclient - start via "python manage.py mmclient" in mailman-suite_project
- mailman shell - start via ".local/bin/mailman shell"
What would be the best way of configure a mailing list?
The howto from the URL above is working with the mailman shell for me, but unfortunately, it is about creating mailling lists, not creating. Are there any howto about modify a maillist?
Thanks,
Sebastian
Sebastian Kotthoff Rechenzentrum Universität Mannheim B6, 23-29; Building B; Room 1.10 68159 Mannheim
Tel: +49 621 181 2516 Fax: +49 621 181 2682
On 09/07/2017 01:27 PM, Sebastian Kotthoff wrote:
after installing mailman3 successfully (took me 5 evenings), I'm now confused about the configuration.
A more appropriate list for Mailman 3 is mailman-users@mailman3.org <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>.
But now, I like to change the default language of a list from English to German, so that the German templates are selected.
I found some hint in URL: https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.html, where they use a command line (mailman client or mailman shell?) to change the language during creation.
A more up to date (and more nicely rendered) version of this is at <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.htm...>.
This does not work for me, but the mayer point is, that I got lost between the different kinds of interfaces.
There are currently no i18n translations for Mailman 3. Thus setting the list's preferred language to German will have no real effect.
It seems, that there are:
- Rest server API - start via ".local/bin/ipython3" in my environment?
- Rest client API - start via "ipython" ?
- mailmanclient / mmclient - start via "python manage.py mmclient" in mailman-suite_project
- mailman shell - start via ".local/bin/mailman shell"
What would be the best way of configure a mailing list?
For configuration settings not exposed in Postorius, 'mailman shell' is preferred. If a setting is not exposed in Postorius, there is no guarantee it is exposed in the REST API either and even if it is, it may not be exposed in mailmanclient.
The howto from the URL above is working with the mailman shell for me, but unfortunately, it is about creating mailling lists, not creating. Are there any howto about modify a maillist?
See <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.html>. Here's a simple example:
$ mailman shell -l test@mailman3.org Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the test@mailman3.org mailing list
m.preferred_language <Language [en] English (USA)> m.preferred_language='de' m.preferred_language <Language [de] German> commit()
The 'commit()' isn't necessary if you just exit (control-D) as that does an implicit commit, but if you do a series of changes, without commit(), you can reverse them with abort().
Also note that the above 'mailman shell -l test@mailman3.org' is the latests syntax. Older versions may not use '-l' before the list name.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you very much! Mailman Shell is working now (-l is available in my shell, maybe little older - mailman 3.1)
Thanks,
Sebastian
On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 07:57:30AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 09/07/2017 01:27 PM, Sebastian Kotthoff wrote:
after installing mailman3 successfully (took me 5 evenings), I'm now confused about the configuration.
A more appropriate list for Mailman 3 is mailman-users@mailman3.org <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>.
But now, I like to change the default language of a list from English to German, so that the German templates are selected.
I found some hint in URL: https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.html, where they use a command line (mailman client or mailman shell?) to change the language during creation.
A more up to date (and more nicely rendered) version of this is at <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.htm...>.
This does not work for me, but the mayer point is, that I got lost between the different kinds of interfaces.
There are currently no i18n translations for Mailman 3. Thus setting the list's preferred language to German will have no real effect.
It seems, that there are:
- Rest server API - start via ".local/bin/ipython3" in my environment?
- Rest client API - start via "ipython" ?
- mailmanclient / mmclient - start via "python manage.py mmclient" in mailman-suite_project
- mailman shell - start via ".local/bin/mailman shell"
What would be the best way of configure a mailing list?
For configuration settings not exposed in Postorius, 'mailman shell' is preferred. If a setting is not exposed in Postorius, there is no guarantee it is exposed in the REST API either and even if it is, it may not be exposed in mailmanclient.
The howto from the URL above is working with the mailman shell for me, but unfortunately, it is about creating mailling lists, not creating. Are there any howto about modify a maillist?
See <http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.html>. Here's a simple example:
$ mailman shell -l test@mailman3.org Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell The variable 'm' is the test@mailman3.org mailing list
m.preferred_language <Language [en] English (USA)> m.preferred_language='de' m.preferred_language <Language [de] German> commit()
The 'commit()' isn't necessary if you just exit (control-D) as that does an implicit commit, but if you do a series of changes, without commit(), you can reverse them with abort().
Also note that the above 'mailman shell -l test@mailman3.org' is the latests syntax. Older versions may not use '-l' before the list name.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Tel: +49 621 181 2516 Fax: +49 621 181 2682
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