RE: [Mailman-Users] list emails aren't being sent
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The keyword is logfiles. Check the mailman /log directory and check the MTA (mailer) logfiles which are placed depending on your mailer and OS.
Most probably /var/log/maillog or something similar...
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Interesting.
I just installed Mailman today, by-the-book and double checked as much as I could, and I'm having the same problems.
/var/log/maillog shows that the message is sent (no errors) to "wrapper" which is symlinked (on FreeBSD) in /usr/libexec/sm.bin and has the correct permissions.
The logs/smtp file doesn't say anything useful:
Jul 03 18:28:32 2001 (75115) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.279 seconds
Nothing in the other logs that would point to a problem. "check_perms -f" says all is well.
The aliases in /etc/mail/aliases are set up correctly (that would be obvious).
The administrative interface (web) says there is nothing in queue, and no archive (even though I told it to archive the new private list), but I see in the qfiles directory:
4da4aafdb0a6912bd8774da049fc15a4d25ffe7d.db 4da4aafdb0a6912bd8774da049fc15a4d25ffe7d.msg 6929ca5872c4a2d5c1d5b23a83ae5d25583d5e6b.db 6929ca5872c4a2d5c1d5b23a83ae5d25583d5e6b.msg 8118db9ce7268a9dd718f5cb2764d2260025abfe.db 8118db9ce7268a9dd718f5cb2764d2260025abfe.msg 84a81a52835bd793a1c0066286e304e9bbeeb75c.db 84a81a52835bd793a1c0066286e304e9bbeeb75c.msg c7d72dd3264910737585c35e16372ae52caab1ed.db c7d72dd3264910737585c35e16372ae52caab1ed.msg
My crontab was installed properly and I HUP'd the cron process (the paths are correct in the crontab entries).
The httpd.conf (Apache 1.3.20) seems to be correctly configured -- I can get to the interface using:
http://ourhost.ourdomain.com/mailman/admin
I installed an alias per the instructions I read:
Alias /pipermail/ "/local5/mailman/archives/"
Though I admit to not seeing where that is useful -- and it doesn't let me at the archive anyway.
Do you have to place an entry in the httpd.conf file for every list you create?? I want to have my private lists available in archive form for the admin.
So... :-) Just a little concerned about why this isn't working and where I can look next for something awry.
Thanks in advance.
_F
At 09:49 AM 7/3/2001 +0200, Enriko Groen wrote:
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On Jul 3, 2001 at 19:36, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
I just installed Mailman today, by-the-book and double checked as much as I could, and I'm having the same problems.
My crontab was installed properly and I HUP'd the cron process (the paths are correct in the crontab entries).
Please post your crontab.
It won't let you at the list archive, until at least one message has been posted to the list.
Do you have to place an entry in the httpd.conf file for every list you create??
No.
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We've got a list that's plagued by vacation autoresponders, which is something Mailman 2.0x doesn't handle well. When I look back through the archives of the mailman-users list, I see that it crops up time and again without any meaningful solution (I don't count unsubbing the villains, manual moderation, whinging about broken autoresponders or re-setting Mailman reply-to as solutions).
Of course, a part-solution is to capture vacation-style subject lines using the 'header value' box on the Privacy page of the web administration. This works. But doesn't capture responses that only mention offices and vacations in the message body.
I believe I have the answer. in Utils.py lurks the list of administrivia phrases that cause mail to be held for moderation. I see no reason why I shouldn't add the worst offending vacation replies to this list. Indeed, I have and it works.
HOWEVER, it only captures text patterns at the *beginning* of the message body. If the body begins with "unsubscribe" or "options" (etc) or, as I now have it, "I will be out of the office" etc., the offending post is held for approval. But if any of those phrases (including the original administrivia phrases) appear further down the message body, the script misses them and the message goes out to the list.
SO ... anyone know how to extend the administrivia settings to capture any recurrence of a pattern in, say, the first 3 to 5 lines of a message? (NB. Normal Perl-style regexp pattern-matching doesn't seem to work here.)
Specifically: each pattern in Utils.py follows the form
"who": (0,0),
What do those numbers in the brackets mean and are they the clue to my answer? Or is the answer elsewhere?
Solve this and you've solved the whole vacation autoresponders problem, IMO.
Any help truly gratefully received.
TIA
Robert
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Interesting.
I just installed Mailman today, by-the-book and double checked as much as I could, and I'm having the same problems.
/var/log/maillog shows that the message is sent (no errors) to "wrapper" which is symlinked (on FreeBSD) in /usr/libexec/sm.bin and has the correct permissions.
The logs/smtp file doesn't say anything useful:
Jul 03 18:28:32 2001 (75115) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.279 seconds
Nothing in the other logs that would point to a problem. "check_perms -f" says all is well.
The aliases in /etc/mail/aliases are set up correctly (that would be obvious).
The administrative interface (web) says there is nothing in queue, and no archive (even though I told it to archive the new private list), but I see in the qfiles directory:
4da4aafdb0a6912bd8774da049fc15a4d25ffe7d.db 4da4aafdb0a6912bd8774da049fc15a4d25ffe7d.msg 6929ca5872c4a2d5c1d5b23a83ae5d25583d5e6b.db 6929ca5872c4a2d5c1d5b23a83ae5d25583d5e6b.msg 8118db9ce7268a9dd718f5cb2764d2260025abfe.db 8118db9ce7268a9dd718f5cb2764d2260025abfe.msg 84a81a52835bd793a1c0066286e304e9bbeeb75c.db 84a81a52835bd793a1c0066286e304e9bbeeb75c.msg c7d72dd3264910737585c35e16372ae52caab1ed.db c7d72dd3264910737585c35e16372ae52caab1ed.msg
My crontab was installed properly and I HUP'd the cron process (the paths are correct in the crontab entries).
The httpd.conf (Apache 1.3.20) seems to be correctly configured -- I can get to the interface using:
http://ourhost.ourdomain.com/mailman/admin
I installed an alias per the instructions I read:
Alias /pipermail/ "/local5/mailman/archives/"
Though I admit to not seeing where that is useful -- and it doesn't let me at the archive anyway.
Do you have to place an entry in the httpd.conf file for every list you create?? I want to have my private lists available in archive form for the admin.
So... :-) Just a little concerned about why this isn't working and where I can look next for something awry.
Thanks in advance.
_F
At 09:49 AM 7/3/2001 +0200, Enriko Groen wrote:
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On Jul 3, 2001 at 19:36, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
I just installed Mailman today, by-the-book and double checked as much as I could, and I'm having the same problems.
My crontab was installed properly and I HUP'd the cron process (the paths are correct in the crontab entries).
Please post your crontab.
It won't let you at the list archive, until at least one message has been posted to the list.
Do you have to place an entry in the httpd.conf file for every list you create??
No.
-- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- Robert Heinlein
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/70fc0296ffa8ae048edca0139f554587.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
We've got a list that's plagued by vacation autoresponders, which is something Mailman 2.0x doesn't handle well. When I look back through the archives of the mailman-users list, I see that it crops up time and again without any meaningful solution (I don't count unsubbing the villains, manual moderation, whinging about broken autoresponders or re-setting Mailman reply-to as solutions).
Of course, a part-solution is to capture vacation-style subject lines using the 'header value' box on the Privacy page of the web administration. This works. But doesn't capture responses that only mention offices and vacations in the message body.
I believe I have the answer. in Utils.py lurks the list of administrivia phrases that cause mail to be held for moderation. I see no reason why I shouldn't add the worst offending vacation replies to this list. Indeed, I have and it works.
HOWEVER, it only captures text patterns at the *beginning* of the message body. If the body begins with "unsubscribe" or "options" (etc) or, as I now have it, "I will be out of the office" etc., the offending post is held for approval. But if any of those phrases (including the original administrivia phrases) appear further down the message body, the script misses them and the message goes out to the list.
SO ... anyone know how to extend the administrivia settings to capture any recurrence of a pattern in, say, the first 3 to 5 lines of a message? (NB. Normal Perl-style regexp pattern-matching doesn't seem to work here.)
Specifically: each pattern in Utils.py follows the form
"who": (0,0),
What do those numbers in the brackets mean and are they the clue to my answer? Or is the answer elsewhere?
Solve this and you've solved the whole vacation autoresponders problem, IMO.
Any help truly gratefully received.
TIA
Robert
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Enriko Groen
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Forrest Aldrich
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Robert J Shepherd
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Satya