GNU Mailman, admins and passwords
Hi all, Newbie on the list. First of all thank you for making GNU Mailman and making prospective mods. and admins life easier. Secondly, please CC me if somebody answers to this query as I have stopped mail delivery from the list (Mailman can simply deluge my inbox as it has quite some activity) as well as I am subscribed to too many lists (where also I have done the above), the idea being to limit intake wherever I can. I am also not a python geek but have played a bit with python. Am comfortable on console/terminal.
Anyways, onto the query/issue. Recently on one of the mailing lists I have been upgraded to adminship on one of the mailing lists . While I understand that being an administrator means you have earned the trust of fellow admins. I also saw that all the admins share a common password for admin purposes. If one of the admins. does something naughty/mischievous thing I assume it could be found out by the IP Address and if some event escalates then do tracing of of as to who had the IP Address at that point in time. Internally I feel it *probably* uses either a cookie/token or something like that but have no idea what it does.
What I want to know if administrators can have some sort of own unique passwords which Mailman can authenticate as to who took what steps ? I looked up both the archives and the wiki to see if something similar was asked before but somehow wasn't able to get any clear answers.
I got the following results but they seem to be different and unsatisfactory :-
https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50419.html
I also looked up the wiki but ended up none the wiser .
Looking forward to help or/and direction in this regard.
Regards,
Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवालMy quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
On 10/5/2012 1:04 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
Secondly, please CC me if somebody answers to this query as I have stopped mail delivery from the list.
Then you should read the list archives on the web to see your post and any replies. Some people Cc the poster routinely for various reasons, and some do not, but you don't need to ask people do do things they wouldn't ordinarily do when there is a simple alternative.
What I want to know if administrators can have some sort of own unique passwords which Mailman can authenticate as to who took what steps ?
Not in Mailman 2.1, but this will be the case in Mailman 3, at least the unique password part.
I looked up both the archives and the wiki to see if something similar was asked before but somehow wasn't able to get any clear answers.
I got the following results but they seem to be different and unsatisfactory :-
I don't know to which specific part of this you are referring.
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50419.html
The author of this post is confused. One can authenticate for private archive access with the list admin password and any or no email address (the email address is ignored for authentication via the list admin password unless the admin password is coincidentally the same as the member password for the provided email address), but members authenticate with their own email address and member password.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
in-line :-
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 10/5/2012 1:04 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
Secondly, please CC me if somebody answers to this query as I have stopped mail delivery from the list.
Then you should read the list archives on the web to see your post and any replies. Some people Cc the poster routinely for various reasons, and some do not, but you don't need to ask people do do things they wouldn't ordinarily do when there is a simple alternative.
Hi all, Thank you first of all Mark for taking time to answer my queries. I do note your point but my experience has been the above works (most of the time) . It is a compromise but then we all have only so much time that can be used between competing interests and I found out that the above works for me.
What I want to know if administrators can have some sort of own unique passwords which Mailman can authenticate as to who took what steps ?
Not in Mailman 2.1, but this will be the case in Mailman 3, at least the unique password part.
Cool, looking forward to it.
I looked up both the archives and the wiki to see if something similar was asked before but somehow wasn't able to get any clear answers.
I got the following results but they seem to be different and unsatisfactory :-
I don't know to which specific part of this you are referring.
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50419.html
My apologies here. I guess I forgot to clarify what I had done. I tried looking for the query framed as 'unique listadmin password' both on the wiki as well http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ search function to see if some prior discussions had taken before on the same/similar topic but did not get any exact results. The only remotely similar email I got was the link I shared before :-
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50419.html
The author of this post is confused. One can authenticate for private archive access with the list admin password and any or no email address (the email address is ignored for authentication via the list admin password unless the admin password is coincidentally the same as the member password for the provided email address), but members authenticate with their own email address and member password.
I do know the difference between authenticating as a member and as an admin but as already answered the feature I'm looking for is coming in MM 3.
Thank you once again.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
-- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
On 10/8/2012 7:45 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
Then you should read the list archives on the web to see your post and any replies. Some people Cc the poster routinely for various reasons, and some do not, but you don't need to ask people do do things they wouldn't ordinarily do when there is a simple alternative.
Hi all, Thank you first of all Mark for taking time to answer my queries. I do note your point but my experience has been the above works (most of the time) . It is a compromise but then we all have only so much time that can be used between competing interests and I found out that the above works for me.
Do you understand what I'm saying above?
I am not saying that you should not set your subscription to "no mail". I am saying that if you make this choice, you should not place the burden of this choice upon others by asking them to Cc you on replies. You should assume the burden of this choice yourself by reading replies in the list's archives.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro writes:
Do you understand what I'm saying above?
I am not saying that you should not set your subscription to "no mail". I am saying that if you make this choice, you should not place the burden of this choice upon others by asking them to Cc you on replies. You should assume the burden of this choice yourself by reading replies in the list's archives.
Note that it's not just a burden, but has a potentially large benefit. I don't know how many of us oldtimers are left, but such requests used to be widely considered extremely rude, and posters who made them were often (silently!) ignored or given greatly reduced priority by the most experienced and knowledgable members.
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