OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience with Mailman than I.
Here is what I want to happen:
I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to listname@clientdomain.com. clientdomain.com is not the same domain as the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.
Here is what I have so far:
The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints" turningpoints-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces turningpoints" turningpoints-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm turningpoints" turningpoints-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join turningpoints" turningpoints-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave turningpoints" turningpoints-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner turningpoints" turningpoints-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request turningpoints" turningpoints-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe turningpoints" turningpoints-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe turningpoints"
I also added to the alias file on the main mail server, the following:
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints" turningpoints-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces turningpoints" turningpoints-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm turningpoints" turningpoints-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join turningpoints" turningpoints-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave turningpoints" turningpoints-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner turningpoints" turningpoints-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request turningpoints" turningpoints-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe turningpoints" turningpoints-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe turningpoints"
so that when sending to the clients domain, the main server did not reject the user as unknown.
No matter what I do, when I send an email to either turningpoints@secondarymailserver.net or turningpoints@clientdomain.net, I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular email address with the same result.
What the hell am I missing??
TIA Dave
Ok .. I know now what I was missing ... brain cells is what! It never occurred to me that I had to approve the messages I was sending because I never expected that if my email address was in the admin list that I would still get the bounce message. That was wrong. So that is not such a big deal although I would like it if I didn't get the bounce message but I though there was a way to pass an Approved flag with the list password in order to circumvent the moderation thing. I tried to add Approved: <listpassword> to the subject line and as well as the first line of the email with an empty line after it but the message still gets held for moderator approval. What am I doing wrong with that?
Sorry for my dull head with the moderator thing.
Cheers
Dave
Dave Filchak wrote:
OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience with Mailman than I.
Here is what I want to happen:
I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to listname@clientdomain.com. clientdomain.com is not the same domain as the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.
Here is what I have so far:
The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints" turningpoints-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces turningpoints" turningpoints-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm turningpoints" turningpoints-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join turningpoints" turningpoints-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave turningpoints" turningpoints-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner turningpoints" turningpoints-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request turningpoints" turningpoints-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe turningpoints" turningpoints-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe turningpoints"
I also added to the alias file on the main mail server, the following:
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints" turningpoints-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces turningpoints" turningpoints-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm turningpoints" turningpoints-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join turningpoints" turningpoints-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave turningpoints" turningpoints-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner turningpoints" turningpoints-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request turningpoints" turningpoints-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe turningpoints" turningpoints-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe turningpoints"
so that when sending to the clients domain, the main server did not reject the user as unknown.
No matter what I do, when I send an email to either turningpoints@secondarymailserver.net or turningpoints@clientdomain.net, I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular email address with the same result.
What the hell am I missing??
TIA Dave
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Dave Filchak wrote:
Ok .. I know now what I was missing ... brain cells is what! It never occurred to me that I had to approve the messages I was sending because I never expected that if my email address was in the admin list that I would still get the bounce message. That was wrong. So that is not such a big deal although I would like it if I didn't get the bounce message but I though there was a way to pass an Approved flag with the list password in order to circumvent the moderation thing. I tried to add Approved: <listpassword> to the subject line and as well as the first line of the email with an empty line after it but the message still gets held for moderator approval. What am I doing wrong with that?
Sorry for my dull head with the moderator thing.
Cheers
Dave
<snip>
Dave Filchak wrote:
I tried to add Approved: <listpassword> to the subject line and as well as the first line of the email with an empty line after it but the message still gets held for moderator approval. What am I doing wrong with that?
It won't work in the subject. It needs to be an actual message header or the first non-blank line in the first text/plain part of the message. Does it get removed from the message you post? If so, it's in the right place, but the password is wrong. It must be the list admin or list moderator password (without <>), not your member password.
If it is not getting removed from the message, then it isn't the first non-blank line in the first text/plain part.
It doesn't need to be followed by a blank line to work, but prior to Mailman 2.1.7, the first line remaining after the Approved: line was removed was also removed, so info would be lost if that line wasn't blank. Also, starting in 2.1.7 an effort is made to remove the Approved: line from alternative parts, but it still has to be in the first text/plain part to be recognized at all.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Dave Filchak wrote:
OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience with Mailman than I.
Here is what I want to happen:
I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to listname@clientdomain.com. clientdomain.com is not the same domain as the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.
Here is what I have so far:
The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints"
<snip>
I also added to the alias file on the main mail server, the following:
turningpoints: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post turningpoints" turningpoints-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin turningpoints" <snip>
so that when sending to the clients domain, the main server did not reject the user as unknown.
The main server group above are wrong. They say that mail to (for example) turningpoints@main.server should be piped to /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman on the main server which probably doesn't exist.
Thet should probably be
turningpoints: turningpoints@secondary.server turningpoints-admin: turningpoints-admin@secondary.server
and so on for the other 8
No matter what I do, when I send an email to either turningpoints@secondarymailserver.net or turningpoints@clientdomain.net, If turningpoints@clientdomain.net works at all, you either have mailman installed on that machine or the aliases on that machine are not what you said.
I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular email address with the same result.
What the hell am I missing??
See next reply.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Crap .. sorry .. must have mis-pasted, if that is a word!
What I actually have on the main server is:
turningpoints: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-admin: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-bounces: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-confirm: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-join: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-leave: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-owner: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-request: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-subscribe: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-unsubscribe: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net
Dave
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Dave Filchak wrote:
OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience with Mailman than I.
Here is what I want to happen:
I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to listname@clientdomain.com. clientdomain.com is not the same domain as the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.
Here is what I have so far:
The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.
<snip>
The main server group above are wrong. They say that mail to (for example) turningpoints@main.server should be piped to /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman on the main server which probably doesn't exist.
Thet should probably be
turningpoints: turningpoints@secondary.server turningpoints-admin: turningpoints-admin@secondary.server
and so on for the other 8
No matter what I do, when I send an email to either turningpoints@secondarymailserver.net or turningpoints@clientdomain.net,
If turningpoints@clientdomain.net works at all, you either have mailman installed on that machine or the aliases on that machine are not what you said.
I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular email address with the same result.
What the hell am I missing??
See next reply.
Dave Filchak wrote:
Crap .. sorry .. must have mis-pasted, if that is a word!
What I actually have on the main server is:
turningpoints: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-admin: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-bounces: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-confirm: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-join: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-leave: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-owner: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-request: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-subscribe: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-unsubscribe: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net
It should be
turningpoints: turningpoints@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-admin: turningpoints-admin@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-bounces: turningpoints-bounces@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-confirm: turningpoints-confirm@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-join: turningpoints-join@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-leave: turningpoints-leave@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-owner: turningpoints-owner@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-request: turningpoints-request@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-subscribe: turningpoints-subscribe@secondaryserver.net turningpoints-unsubscribe: turningpoints-unsubscribe@secondaryserver.net
Or if your MTA supports such a thing, just the one
turningpoints(-.*)?: turningpoints\1@secondaryserver.net
or whatever the correct syntax if any is in your case.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Yeah, I missed that. Thanks. Almost there now. I really do appreciate your patience. I will work on that sending Approve + password thing tomorrow as its not a huge deal. However, one thing that still is. I have configured the reply to in a way that I thought that the end user would see a reply-to address in the headers that was not a reply to the list. I have set the following:
Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields): yes Should any existing Reply-To: header found in the original message be stripped? If so, this will be done regardless of whether an explicit Reply-To: header is added by Mailman or not. : no Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is /strongly/ recommended for most mailing lists. : Explicit Address Explicit Reply-To: header.: newsletter@clientdomain.com
However I still see:
From: turningpoints@clientdomain.com Reply-to: turningpoints@clientdomain.com
Should the reply-to address not be newsletter@clientdomain.com?
Thanks again,
Dave
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Dave Filchak wrote:
<snip>
Dave Filchak wrote:
However, one thing that still is. I have configured the reply to in a way that I thought that the end user would see a reply-to address in the headers that was not a reply to the list. I have set the following:
Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields): yes Should any existing Reply-To: header found in the original message be stripped? If so, this will be done regardless of whether an explicit Reply-To: header is added by Mailman or not. : no
This should probably be 'Yes'. Since you (or only a few authorized posters) are doing the posting and you probably don't want to get the replies, you should strip out any incoming Reply-To: which may have the poster's address.
Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is /strongly/ recommended for most mailing lists. : Explicit Address
Are you sure you have this? It is acting as if you have "This list".
Explicit Reply-To: header.: newsletter@clientdomain.com
However I still see:
From: turningpoints@clientdomain.com Reply-to: turningpoints@clientdomain.com
Should the reply-to address not be newsletter@clientdomain.com?
Yes.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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