Web interface for users (not admins)?
I've been sort of casually looking for alternatives to Google Groups. I subscribe to and/or help administer a number of groups there. There are a large fraction of us who only ever use the email interface. There are others who would leave (or get out their pitchforks) if the web interface wasn't available. A couple of the groups are fairly large, 3000-4000 subscribers, with archives dating back ten to twenty years. Functionally, Google Groups is fine, but well, it's Google, with all that implies. Most of the time everything is okay, then they make a change to the web interface and all hell breaks loose for a couple weeks or months until Google gets around to fixing the breakage.
I've been keeping an eye on Groups.io (subscribed to its group managers list). It's not free, and would cost at least $2000/year for the bigger lists. They have a donation interface to make it easier for list admins to solicit donations to defray costs, but it's not clear that always works as desired. The messages to the group managers list seem to imply GIO has various other warts as well. (It does have a clever #hashtag-in-subject feature for tagging related messages.)
So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing. Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin interface.
Thanks,
Skip Montanaro
Hi Skip!
First, a bit of admin. Mailman 2 is still in active use, so we've split out a separate list for Mailman 3: mailman-users@mailman3.org. Subscribe at https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ You can use several common social media to authenticate yourself. You'll have to do the usual one-time key dance to verify your email address (sorry!) You will get good feedback from the users there (better than the OP list).
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Skip Montanaro writes:
So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3?
Yes. The HyperKitty archiver, which is part of the Mailman 3 suite[1], provides an interface for submitting posts as well as reading them, and has a few social media features (liking posts).
Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.o?
That's for your users to say. ;-) If you visit https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ you can try it for yourself. To post, you'll need to sign up (you can do that with a Google account, and I think both GitHub and GitLab are accepted as well.
I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing. Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin interface.
HyperKitty issues mostly have to do with importing archives. The webservice being effectively synchronous and centralized doesn't have a lot of problems as compared to email, and many feature suggestions go directly to the tracker for HyperKitty. I'm not surprised you don't find much about HyperKitty as Web UI in the list archives.
First, a bit of admin. Mailman 2 is still in active use, so we've split out a separate list for Mailman 3: mailman-users@mailman3.org.
So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3?
Yes. The HyperKitty archiver, which is part of the Mailman 3 suite[1], provides an interface for submitting posts as well as reading them, and has a few social media features (liking posts).
Thanks (and to Mark). I was completely unaware of an MM3 list (been far out of the MM loop for years). Also, since the MM2 list is hosted on mail.python.org, when I checked the MM3 lists there, I didn't see the other list. Also, I am a basically 100% email user for these groups to which I referred and don't have a ton of experience with MM3, so, though I was aware of Hyperkitty, its label as an "archiver" gave me no clues as to its added functionality.
I'll check it out.
Skip
On 5/6/21 1:47 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing. Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin interface.
First, a better list for Mailman 3 is mailman-users@mailman3.org <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>.
Mailman 3's Postorius and HyperKitty interfaces are for users as well as admins. I don't know what you were looking at or why you think it was for only admins, but, for example, the archives of this list including search and reply features are at <https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/> and the management interface for both admins and users is at <https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/>
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