virtual hosting / list name

so i have a question, which it seems other people may have experienced... is there any way to change the email addresses that mailman sends out to list admins / subscribers?
here's an example: i have a domain will.invalid and a mailing list named list.
we use a virtual hosting setup, so we actually make the "list-name": list-will.invalid@lists.will.invalid
even though aliases point: list@lists.will.invalid to the actual list post.
is there any way to make mailman report the shorter name (without breaking the list)?
-- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >

Will Yardley wrote:
I take a different approach:
I create <list> just the way I want it named (for example: test)
Sendmail's virtusertable does the following translation: test@lists.domain.net test-lists.domain.net test-admin@lists.domain.net test-admin-lists.domain.net test-request@lists.domain.net test-request-lists.domain.net test-owner@lists.domain.net test-admin-lists.domain.net
The Alias file takes care of the rest (lines wrapped): ## test@lists.domain.net mailing list ## created: 13-Dec-2000 root test-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper post test" test-admin-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper mailowner test" test-request-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
This allows me to have multiple 'test' lists across multiple domains, on the same machine, all behaving as separate lists. (This also means I have multiple MM installations.)
-- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Will Yardley wrote:
hrmm that seems like an interesting way to do things. do you use an automated system to create each one? i think a variation on this might fit our needs pretty well (although a way to simply change the email address sent by mailman would, of course, be nicer :>)
do you use symbolic links for commands and just create a new directory structure for the data directories and stuff? seems like having lots of full mailman installations might be a major headache when it comes time to upgrade (keep in mind that we have about 10-12k customers and are now starting to allow unlimited discussion lists on all plans)...
-- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >

Will Yardley wrote:
hrmm that seems like an interesting way to do things. do you use an automated system to create each one?
Yeah, it's called 'My Ten Fingers'... :)
do you use symbolic links for commands and just create a new directory structure for the data directories and stuff?
No, although I have thought about that. Not sure if it will work or not -
never tried it.
-- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

Will Yardley wrote:
I take a different approach:
I create <list> just the way I want it named (for example: test)
Sendmail's virtusertable does the following translation: test@lists.domain.net test-lists.domain.net test-admin@lists.domain.net test-admin-lists.domain.net test-request@lists.domain.net test-request-lists.domain.net test-owner@lists.domain.net test-admin-lists.domain.net
The Alias file takes care of the rest (lines wrapped): ## test@lists.domain.net mailing list ## created: 13-Dec-2000 root test-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper post test" test-admin-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper mailowner test" test-request-lists.domain.net:
"|/home/mailman/lists.domain.net/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
This allows me to have multiple 'test' lists across multiple domains, on the same machine, all behaving as separate lists. (This also means I have multiple MM installations.)
-- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Will Yardley wrote:
hrmm that seems like an interesting way to do things. do you use an automated system to create each one? i think a variation on this might fit our needs pretty well (although a way to simply change the email address sent by mailman would, of course, be nicer :>)
do you use symbolic links for commands and just create a new directory structure for the data directories and stuff? seems like having lots of full mailman installations might be a major headache when it comes time to upgrade (keep in mind that we have about 10-12k customers and are now starting to allow unlimited discussion lists on all plans)...
-- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >

Will Yardley wrote:
hrmm that seems like an interesting way to do things. do you use an automated system to create each one?
Yeah, it's called 'My Ten Fingers'... :)
do you use symbolic links for commands and just create a new directory structure for the data directories and stuff?
No, although I have thought about that. Not sure if it will work or not -
never tried it.
-- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.
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