Mollom content filtering service?

Is anyone using the Mollom service <http://mollom.com/> with Mailman? Or does anyone know of a similar content filtering/spam service that is easy to integrate with Mailman and Postfix?

David wrote:
Is anyone using the Mollom service <http://mollom.com/> with Mailman? Or does anyone know of a similar content filtering/spam service that >is easy to integrate with Mailman and Postfix?
On initial checking it looks like more of a service one would use for blogs or comment forms rather than Mailman, the input for Mailman is email and not via web forms. I am not even sure whether this would be useful on the subscription form, since you aren't posting any message to it other than the email address and name of the person, and you can verify subscriptions by use of a confirmation message, subscription moderation or either/both.
Thanks. Andrew.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>wrote:
Yes, Mollem is designed for blogs and web forms. So what do most Mailman admins use? Maia Mailguard, SpamAssassin, ClamAV? I guess this must be a common question, but I don't see any mention of it in the Mailman FAQ. Is it a more proper question for a Postfix list?

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:48 AM, David <dave@fiteyes.com> wrote:
Indeed, the recommended configuration is to do your spam- and virus-filtering in the MTA (Postfix, in your case). This has many advantages, including the ability to avoid accepting spam in the first place.
See FAQs 4.23 and 6.12: 4.23 "How do I use SpamAssassin with Mailman?" 6.12 "Mailman + postfix + amavisd-new HOWTO (anti-spam)"
If you have some reason to do filtering in Mailman, there is a 3rd-party SpamAssassin module. However, I don't recall hearing of a virus filter Handler for Mailman, so you'd need to write your own SpamAssassin rules or something. Or run the virus filter from Postfix, but if you do that, why not run your spam checker there, too?
To read more about the rationale, you'd have to dig into the archives. It comes up fairly frequently.
Regards,

David <dave@fiteyes.com> wrote:
There are handlers for interfacing Mailman with SpamAssassin <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/557991> and with ClamAV <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/558098>, and there may even be a Mailman package for one or more distros that incorporates one or both of these, but the recommended approach is to incorporate your spam and malware filtering in incoming mail processing using milters or something like MailScanner <http://www.mailscanner.info> or Fuglu <http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/fuglu/>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

David wrote:
Is anyone using the Mollom service <http://mollom.com/> with Mailman? Or does anyone know of a similar content filtering/spam service that >is easy to integrate with Mailman and Postfix?
On initial checking it looks like more of a service one would use for blogs or comment forms rather than Mailman, the input for Mailman is email and not via web forms. I am not even sure whether this would be useful on the subscription form, since you aren't posting any message to it other than the email address and name of the person, and you can verify subscriptions by use of a confirmation message, subscription moderation or either/both.
Thanks. Andrew.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>wrote:
Yes, Mollem is designed for blogs and web forms. So what do most Mailman admins use? Maia Mailguard, SpamAssassin, ClamAV? I guess this must be a common question, but I don't see any mention of it in the Mailman FAQ. Is it a more proper question for a Postfix list?

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:48 AM, David <dave@fiteyes.com> wrote:
Indeed, the recommended configuration is to do your spam- and virus-filtering in the MTA (Postfix, in your case). This has many advantages, including the ability to avoid accepting spam in the first place.
See FAQs 4.23 and 6.12: 4.23 "How do I use SpamAssassin with Mailman?" 6.12 "Mailman + postfix + amavisd-new HOWTO (anti-spam)"
If you have some reason to do filtering in Mailman, there is a 3rd-party SpamAssassin module. However, I don't recall hearing of a virus filter Handler for Mailman, so you'd need to write your own SpamAssassin rules or something. Or run the virus filter from Postfix, but if you do that, why not run your spam checker there, too?
To read more about the rationale, you'd have to dig into the archives. It comes up fairly frequently.
Regards,

David <dave@fiteyes.com> wrote:
There are handlers for interfacing Mailman with SpamAssassin <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/557991> and with ClamAV <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/558098>, and there may even be a Mailman package for one or more distros that incorporates one or both of these, but the recommended approach is to incorporate your spam and malware filtering in incoming mail processing using milters or something like MailScanner <http://www.mailscanner.info> or Fuglu <http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/fuglu/>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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