I am running v2.1.13 on Mac OS X Server 10.5.8; all works well, I have many lists running with virtual hosts for several organizations.
I noticed a strange behavior recently. One list was set to "Emergency Moderate" all traffic. For this one list, I (as administrator) did not receive the customary notification of held e-mails until the following day, when the daily reminder message would notify me that the message was still waiting to be approved/denied.
Turning off "Emergency Moderate" restored behavior to normal, and I now receive immediate notification of held posts.
All other lists work fine with respect to moderated / held messages, none of them have 'Emergency Moderate' on.
I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had any thoughts.
Thanks,
-Rob
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:05:31 -0000, Rob <pennguin@mac.com> wrote:
I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had
any thoughts.
I saw exactly the same behaviour a month or two back, then I read the
manual that confirmed this is as intended - to avoid the moderator getting
floods of email during emergency moderation.
Malcolm.
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Rob wrote:
I noticed a strange behavior recently. One list was set to "Emergency Moderate" all traffic. For this one list, I (as administrator) did not receive the customary notification of held e-mails until the following day, when the daily reminder message would notify me that the message was still waiting to be approved/denied.
That's how it's designed to work. Emergency moderation is designed to be used to moderate all traffic in emergencies such as to quell flame wars. It is not intended to be used routinely to moderate all posts.
Thus, when emergency moderation is on, posts which are not held for some other reason are held for emergency moderation and the owner/moderator is not notified even if admin_immed_notify is yes.
Turning off "Emergency Moderate" restored behavior to normal, and I now receive immediate notification of held posts.
Unless there is an Apple mod in the order of the pipeline, you should have received notices of posts held for other than emergency moderation anyway. The only held posts that you would not receive notice for are those specifically held for emergency moderation.
All other lists work fine with respect to moderated / held messages, none of them have 'Emergency Moderate' on.
I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had any thoughts.
If you want to routinely hold all posts, the way to do that is to set all member's 'mod' flags on and set new members moderated by default. Under normal circumstannces, emergency moderation should be off.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Feb 1, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Rob wrote:
I noticed a strange behavior recently. One list was set to "Emergency Moderate" all traffic. For this one list, I (as administrator) did not receive the customary notification of held e-mails until the following day, when the daily reminder message would notify me that the message was still waiting to be approved/denied.
That's how it's designed to work. Emergency moderation is designed to be used to moderate all traffic in emergencies such as to quell flame wars. It is not intended to be used routinely to moderate all posts.
Thus, when emergency moderation is on, posts which are not held for some other reason are held for emergency moderation and the owner/moderator is not notified even if admin_immed_notify is yes.
Turning off "Emergency Moderate" restored behavior to normal, and I now receive immediate notification of held posts.
Unless there is an Apple mod in the order of the pipeline, you should have received notices of posts held for other than emergency moderation anyway. The only held posts that you would not receive notice for are those specifically held for emergency moderation.
All other lists work fine with respect to moderated / held messages, none of them have 'Emergency Moderate' on.
I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had any thoughts.
If you want to routinely hold all posts, the way to do that is to set all member's 'mod' flags on and set new members moderated by default. Under normal circumstannces, emergency moderation should be off.
Thanks, that is what I normally do, and is how I have the list set up now.
So, if I do use Emergency moderate in the future, would I just check the pending requests page manually to see if posts have arrived?
-Rob
Rob wrote:
So, if I do use Emergency moderate in the future, would I just check the pending requests page manually to see if posts have arrived?
If you wanted to know what was waiting moderation before receiving your daily notice, yes.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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