Speaking of brain dead AOL cretins, is there any way to get some sort of personalization in digests that are sent out? I've got a few lists where some clueless AOL dimwit getting digests is marking the mail as abuse.
I would love to simply remove them from the list, but thanks to the policies AOL has set forth, I have no way of finding out who they are.
mjb.
Mark J Bradakis writes:
I would love to simply remove them from the list, but thanks to the policies AOL has set forth, I have no way of finding out who they are.
If it's a discussion list or an announcement list that the members positively value, just announce to the list
- AOL is threatening to obstruct distribution of list posts to AOL subscribers because of one unknown complainer
- AOL refuses to help you unsubscribe that person
- subscribers from AOL addresses will henceforth have to reactivate their subscriptions on the first of every month.
Then start the cron job that sets all AOL addresses to no-mail at 00:01 on the first of the month.<0.9 wink> The "0.1" part is that if *everybody* did this, I suspect AOL might change its policies.
BTW, while some AOL users are undoubtedly dimwits (and perhaps even a higher fraction than the population at large), I kind of suspect that at least some of the ones who mark your distribution as spam are victims of joe jobs. Yes, I'm sure you're using double opt in, but it's often fairly easy to acquire passwords; some people put them on post-its on their monitor, others post them to Mailman-Users!
Mark J Bradakis wrote:
Speaking of brain dead AOL cretins, is there any way to get some sort of personalization in digests that are sent out?
Have you tried VERP?
Have you tried VERP?
I'd rather not turn on VERP for all 60+ lists I'm running. As I recall it is a domain wide setting, not a per list setting.
I was hoping there might be a way to use something like $(user_address) in non-digest mode on digest mailings for just the one list with the problem child on it.
mjb.
Mark J Bradakis wrote:
I'd rather not turn on VERP for all 60+ lists I'm running. As I recall it is a domain wide setting, not a per list setting.
Yes, VERP is a sitewide setting. You can VERP only personalized deliveries, but you then have the catch-22 - digests aren't personalized.
I was hoping there might be a way to use something like $(user_address) in non-digest mode on digest mailings for just the one list with the problem child on it.
It requires modifications to a few Mailman modules. It would be easier to set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 for long enough to get the information.
You could even change your crontab to run a shell script instead of cron/senddigests.
The script could
- edit mm_cfg.py to set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
- do bin/mailmanctl restart
2.5 sleep a bit 3. do cron/senddigests -l problem_list 3.5 sleep a bit 4. edit mm_cfg.py to set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 0 5. do bin/mailmanctl restart 5.5 sleep a bit 6. do cron/senddigests
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Yes, VERP is a sitewide setting. You can VERP only personalized deliveries, but you then have the catch-22 - digests aren't personalized.
BTW, I'm reworking the basic delivery machinery in Mailman 3, so I
think it will be possible to do some personalization of digests.
-Barry
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