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I am one of the list administrator/moderator for several mailing lists, most of which aren't based on my machine (a few are in another continent), so I am not the site admin for them.
In particular three of these are on the same machine, therefore my firefox is able to remember the password for one mailing list only (if I reply YES to the request to change the stored password, it remembers the one of the last mailing list visited).
Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ?
(Preferably one which does NOT store password outside of the local machine)
Thanks
--
Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html
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On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 02:21:50PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,)
https://lists.example.com/mailman/options/foobaa/foo@example.org
LastPass / 1password ?
-- "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think, 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.' Now they have two problems." -- Jamie Zawinski
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On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote:
You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,)
I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but these are shared with other co-moderators. And apparently at NASA they are also over-concerned (I got the passwords by snail mail, on paper !!)
I should have added "add-on for firefox ON LINUX". Apparently this "1password" (which I did not find in the firefox add-on list) is not supported on Linux.
I saw LastPass mentioned, but I gathered it stores passwords elsewhere than on my local machine (which I would not like). Is that correct ?
Thanks anyhow
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At Mon, 26 May 2014 16:04:55 +0200 (CEST) Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Yes. LastPass stores passwords on their server and you use one *one* password to access all others.
-- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / heller@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
LastPass does do what you ask - store/serve passwords based on full URLs. It works for me for multiple Mailman lists under 1 domain I have. LP does indeed store your passwords on their servers, but they do not hold your Master Password, and all decryption is done client-side with in-browser JS. So if you loose your MP, that’s the end of your PW store. It’s about as secure as you can get without rolling your own. It’s all free if you don’t use the mobile plugin feature, otherwise it’s $12/year - quite a deal I would say.
-Conrad
-- Who can you trust?
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On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
My all time favorite:
www.passwordmaker.org
Doesn't store passwords anywhere (generates the password on the fly every time based on the detected URL, and other criteria you set when you create a specific account)...
I've been using it for many years, and couldn't live without it. I also wrote a lot of the wiki text explaining its usage, so can (and am happy to) answer any questions abou it.
It isn't perfect, by any stretch, and I have been toying with the idea of switching to KeePass, but I really dislike actually storing the passwords anywhere...
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On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
Unfortunately this presupposes the ability to change the remote lsit admin password, which in my case is fixed since it is shared by various co-moderators
I found a solution inspired by Saved Password Editor (but I'm not sure whether SPE is required, or just allows to see and edit what is normally stored by firefox anyhow. For SPE (and perhaps firefox by default) ...
The lookup key for passwords in HTML forms consists of the host prefix, submit prefix, and username.
If my mailing lists are on a remote server, and accessed via the usual mailman authentication form, the host prefix and submit prefix are the same. There is no username, so one cannot have separate entries for different mailing lists on the same server.
--
Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html
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Tanstaafl writes:
You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works.
I have no clue what you're talking about. The OP shares a password with several other users, and does not have the right to change it, or to ask others to change their workflows. You need to explain how passwordmaker can do its thing for an *existing* account *and password*, or it's a non-starter for him.
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On 5/29/2014 1:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
Chill Stephen. First, I wasn't talking to you, second, no need for the attitude.
As for what I'm talking about - I didn't understand what *he* was saying, but he cleared it up and I explained how he can indeed use passwordmaker to do this.
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Tanstaafl writes:
Chill Stephen.
Chill yourself. You had two rounds to figure out what he was asking for, and missed it twice. Then you tell him he "doesn't understand totally how it works." I really *was* puzzled as to how you could think the system you described met his requirements.
Now I think I understand: "To a man with a hammer...."
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Tanstaafl wrote:
I think the misundersstanding comes from the use of the word "account" to describe passwordmaker's sets of URLS/credentials, as explained by Charles at the bottom of his email before last. I expect that's passwordmaker's terminology.
Easy to understand how the misunderstanding arose, and how it escalated. I was initially confused too. If it works for Charles then it should work for anyone.
Peter Shute
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Tanstaafl writes:
It *does*...
It does?? As you described it, he can let passwordmaker choose his password. But he says he can't do that. Or he can specify the whole password as the prefix, which is insecure. And AIUI that's not acceptable to him either, as far as I can see he's very concerned about security. So what's the third option that is both secure and allows use of the current password?
As far as I can see, you're just saying the requirements are stupid. I tend to agree (for several reasons), but unfortunately it's also common that one needs to follow them anyway, and AFAICS the OP is in that situation.
now who is missing what?
I could very easily be missing something that nobody has put into words yet, of course.
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Explained in an earlier message:
So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a master password to use it?
I expect all the Apple quoting will vanish from the text above, I hope you can work out what's quoted and what's not.
Peter Shute
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On 5/30/2014 5:03 AM, Peter Shute <pshute@nuw.org.au> wrote:
So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a master password to use it?
No, the RDF file itself is not encrypted, however...
The third option I just suggested in my last email does indeed encrypt the values stored in the Advanced Auto-Populate tab, when stored in the RDF file, and requires the Master Password to decrypt it - and this encryption is pretty strong, so is about as secure as can be fo a password that is stored on disk...
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On Fri, 30 May 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
acceptable to him either, as far as I can see he's very concerned about security.
Well, I'm personally NOT very concerned about security. But for my bank account (protected by one-shot hardware key), my payslip, and perhaps my health service records (protected by one-shot cell-phone sent key), I tend to use when possible one key to access generic web sites.
In this case it might be that the entity managing the mailman server is more concerned than I am, and so I'm bound to respect their way.
Anyhow, I found a suitable workaround for my problem, so for me this issue is closed. Thanks for your interest.
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On 5/30/2014 4:42 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
Tanstaafl writes:
It *does*...
Entering the password from memory?
This isn't a limitation of passwordmaker or any other password program... it is a limitation imposed by the (as far as I understand it, but I may be missing something too) use case.
As far as I know there is no program that is capable of reading minds and/or intuiting what password should be used based solely on what someone knows in their head.
That said, there is actually a more secure option...
passwordmaker has the ability to encrypt the password that is stored, if the form allows it, which I'm fairly certain mailman's login forms do - let me check - yep...
So, the only other option that I can offer would be to create a custom account for the login page in passwordmaker, then add the password field, username and password fields to the 'Advanced Auto-Populate' fields as described here:
http://www.passwordmaker.org/Firefox/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Flock/Netscape/Advanc...
As far as I can see, you're just saying the requirements are stupid.
No, just trying to help is all... :)
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On Wed, 28 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works.
That's quite possible.
I did not install it, but read the online documentation, and I gathered that it GENERATES passwords to be used on remote sites, requiring to CHANGE those currently in use. Did I understand wrong ?
On 5/27/2014 6:11 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
Well, on one hand I meant that I MUST use the CURRENT passwords for the remote site, because such password is used by other people too !
I guess it is not uncommon that the role of moderator of a mailman mailing list is shared among different people (often in completely different countries so that almost all timezones are covered).
On the other hand (and this is mailman specific), the web pages I was referring to are the mailman "list administrator authentication" pages. They are not properly "accounts" as they contain just a password field but no username.
Since apparently firefox password database keys on the triplet (server url, submit prefix, username), it is unable to save separate passwords if server url and submit prefix are the same and there is no username !
My workaround (see previous post) was to make a local copy of the web pages, adding a fake (different) username in a disabled control.
I hope it is clearer now
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On 5/29/2014 4:28 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Yes... you can force it to use a previously established password that you don't want to change by simply creating an account for the URL, setting a password length of the exact length of the current password, then entering the password into the prefix field.
This isn't very secure, because the password is then stored inside the .rdf file, but it will work.
Well, on one hand I meant that I MUST use the CURRENT passwords for the remote site, because such password is used by other people too !
Understood now... but at least mailman3 will allow for multiple admin users/passwords, which will eliminate this problem.
In passwordmaker, an 'account' is simple an entry with a specific URL/username combination.
Charles
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On Mon, 26 May 2014 13:21:50 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti
<lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Not an FF add-on ... but Opera will do this for you, when saving password
there's a tick box for 'this page only' as opposed to the default of 'this
site'.
= Malcolm.
-- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk> GENUKI trustee <genuki@weald.org.uk> Oxfordshire FHS webmaster <webmaster@ofhs.org.uk> PUG chairman <chairman@pugweb.org.uk> FFHS Communications Officer <communications@ffhs.org.uk>
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On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 02:21:50PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,)
https://lists.example.com/mailman/options/foobaa/foo@example.org
LastPass / 1password ?
-- "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think, 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.' Now they have two problems." -- Jamie Zawinski
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On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote:
You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,)
I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but these are shared with other co-moderators. And apparently at NASA they are also over-concerned (I got the passwords by snail mail, on paper !!)
I should have added "add-on for firefox ON LINUX". Apparently this "1password" (which I did not find in the firefox add-on list) is not supported on Linux.
I saw LastPass mentioned, but I gathered it stores passwords elsewhere than on my local machine (which I would not like). Is that correct ?
Thanks anyhow
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At Mon, 26 May 2014 16:04:55 +0200 (CEST) Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Yes. LastPass stores passwords on their server and you use one *one* password to access all others.
-- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / heller@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
LastPass does do what you ask - store/serve passwords based on full URLs. It works for me for multiple Mailman lists under 1 domain I have. LP does indeed store your passwords on their servers, but they do not hold your Master Password, and all decryption is done client-side with in-browser JS. So if you loose your MP, that’s the end of your PW store. It’s about as secure as you can get without rolling your own. It’s all free if you don’t use the mobile plugin feature, otherwise it’s $12/year - quite a deal I would say.
-Conrad
-- Who can you trust?
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On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
My all time favorite:
www.passwordmaker.org
Doesn't store passwords anywhere (generates the password on the fly every time based on the detected URL, and other criteria you set when you create a specific account)...
I've been using it for many years, and couldn't live without it. I also wrote a lot of the wiki text explaining its usage, so can (and am happy to) answer any questions abou it.
It isn't perfect, by any stretch, and I have been toying with the idea of switching to KeePass, but I really dislike actually storing the passwords anywhere...
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On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
Unfortunately this presupposes the ability to change the remote lsit admin password, which in my case is fixed since it is shared by various co-moderators
I found a solution inspired by Saved Password Editor (but I'm not sure whether SPE is required, or just allows to see and edit what is normally stored by firefox anyhow. For SPE (and perhaps firefox by default) ...
The lookup key for passwords in HTML forms consists of the host prefix, submit prefix, and username.
If my mailing lists are on a remote server, and accessed via the usual mailman authentication form, the host prefix and submit prefix are the same. There is no username, so one cannot have separate entries for different mailing lists on the same server.
--
Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html
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Tanstaafl writes:
You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works.
I have no clue what you're talking about. The OP shares a password with several other users, and does not have the right to change it, or to ask others to change their workflows. You need to explain how passwordmaker can do its thing for an *existing* account *and password*, or it's a non-starter for him.
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On 5/29/2014 1:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
Chill Stephen. First, I wasn't talking to you, second, no need for the attitude.
As for what I'm talking about - I didn't understand what *he* was saying, but he cleared it up and I explained how he can indeed use passwordmaker to do this.
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Tanstaafl writes:
Chill Stephen.
Chill yourself. You had two rounds to figure out what he was asking for, and missed it twice. Then you tell him he "doesn't understand totally how it works." I really *was* puzzled as to how you could think the system you described met his requirements.
Now I think I understand: "To a man with a hammer...."
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Tanstaafl wrote:
I think the misundersstanding comes from the use of the word "account" to describe passwordmaker's sets of URLS/credentials, as explained by Charles at the bottom of his email before last. I expect that's passwordmaker's terminology.
Easy to understand how the misunderstanding arose, and how it escalated. I was initially confused too. If it works for Charles then it should work for anyone.
Peter Shute
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Tanstaafl writes:
It *does*...
It does?? As you described it, he can let passwordmaker choose his password. But he says he can't do that. Or he can specify the whole password as the prefix, which is insecure. And AIUI that's not acceptable to him either, as far as I can see he's very concerned about security. So what's the third option that is both secure and allows use of the current password?
As far as I can see, you're just saying the requirements are stupid. I tend to agree (for several reasons), but unfortunately it's also common that one needs to follow them anyway, and AFAICS the OP is in that situation.
now who is missing what?
I could very easily be missing something that nobody has put into words yet, of course.
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Explained in an earlier message:
So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a master password to use it?
I expect all the Apple quoting will vanish from the text above, I hope you can work out what's quoted and what's not.
Peter Shute
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc5749b706b85121d8a8b828ef27ed3b.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On 5/30/2014 5:03 AM, Peter Shute <pshute@nuw.org.au> wrote:
So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a master password to use it?
No, the RDF file itself is not encrypted, however...
The third option I just suggested in my last email does indeed encrypt the values stored in the Advanced Auto-Populate tab, when stored in the RDF file, and requires the Master Password to decrypt it - and this encryption is pretty strong, so is about as secure as can be fo a password that is stored on disk...
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0df724a41a9440aea36563edd8738763.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On Fri, 30 May 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
acceptable to him either, as far as I can see he's very concerned about security.
Well, I'm personally NOT very concerned about security. But for my bank account (protected by one-shot hardware key), my payslip, and perhaps my health service records (protected by one-shot cell-phone sent key), I tend to use when possible one key to access generic web sites.
In this case it might be that the entity managing the mailman server is more concerned than I am, and so I'm bound to respect their way.
Anyhow, I found a suitable workaround for my problem, so for me this issue is closed. Thanks for your interest.
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc5749b706b85121d8a8b828ef27ed3b.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On 5/30/2014 4:42 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
Tanstaafl writes:
It *does*...
Entering the password from memory?
This isn't a limitation of passwordmaker or any other password program... it is a limitation imposed by the (as far as I understand it, but I may be missing something too) use case.
As far as I know there is no program that is capable of reading minds and/or intuiting what password should be used based solely on what someone knows in their head.
That said, there is actually a more secure option...
passwordmaker has the ability to encrypt the password that is stored, if the form allows it, which I'm fairly certain mailman's login forms do - let me check - yep...
So, the only other option that I can offer would be to create a custom account for the login page in passwordmaker, then add the password field, username and password fields to the 'Advanced Auto-Populate' fields as described here:
http://www.passwordmaker.org/Firefox/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Flock/Netscape/Advanc...
As far as I can see, you're just saying the requirements are stupid.
No, just trying to help is all... :)
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0df724a41a9440aea36563edd8738763.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On Wed, 28 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works.
That's quite possible.
I did not install it, but read the online documentation, and I gathered that it GENERATES passwords to be used on remote sites, requiring to CHANGE those currently in use. Did I understand wrong ?
On 5/27/2014 6:11 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
Well, on one hand I meant that I MUST use the CURRENT passwords for the remote site, because such password is used by other people too !
I guess it is not uncommon that the role of moderator of a mailman mailing list is shared among different people (often in completely different countries so that almost all timezones are covered).
On the other hand (and this is mailman specific), the web pages I was referring to are the mailman "list administrator authentication" pages. They are not properly "accounts" as they contain just a password field but no username.
Since apparently firefox password database keys on the triplet (server url, submit prefix, username), it is unable to save separate passwords if server url and submit prefix are the same and there is no username !
My workaround (see previous post) was to make a local copy of the web pages, adding a fake (different) username in a disabled control.
I hope it is clearer now
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc5749b706b85121d8a8b828ef27ed3b.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On 5/29/2014 4:28 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Yes... you can force it to use a previously established password that you don't want to change by simply creating an account for the URL, setting a password length of the exact length of the current password, then entering the password into the prefix field.
This isn't very secure, because the password is then stored inside the .rdf file, but it will work.
Well, on one hand I meant that I MUST use the CURRENT passwords for the remote site, because such password is used by other people too !
Understood now... but at least mailman3 will allow for multiple admin users/passwords, which will eliminate this problem.
In passwordmaker, an 'account' is simple an entry with a specific URL/username combination.
Charles
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/26d7ae179a50f4d49b120cb81787e8de.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
On Mon, 26 May 2014 13:21:50 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti
<lucio@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote:
Not an FF add-on ... but Opera will do this for you, when saving password
there's a tick box for 'this page only' as opposed to the default of 'this
site'.
= Malcolm.
-- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk> GENUKI trustee <genuki@weald.org.uk> Oxfordshire FHS webmaster <webmaster@ofhs.org.uk> PUG chairman <chairman@pugweb.org.uk> FFHS Communications Officer <communications@ffhs.org.uk>
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Adam McGreggor
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Lucio Chiappetti
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Malcolm Austen
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Peter Shute
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Robert Heller
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Stephen J. Turnbull
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Tanstaafl