Multiple subscribers set in mailman
Hi,
I am new to mailman and I have List Administrator access only to the mailing list. Can I do the following and if yes how can I do that: We have series of messages (all messages are interlinked by topic) which we want to share with our mailing list subscribers. Now this is fine with already subscribed mailing list members. But who joins new into the same Mailing list we want to send them, messages from the first one and onwards how can we do that? As the new subscribers are only receives the current messages they will find meaning less content. I hope I can get some solutions for this.
I am looking forward to have a solution for the requirement.
Thanks in advance. Mr. Swapan Kumar Mitra Kolkata, WB, India. Mob:+91 0 98303 34580 E-mail Disclaimer This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.
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swapan mitra wrote:
Mailman can't mail the old messages to new subscribers. The new subscribers have to read the old messages in the list's archive.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro wrote at 08:41 AM 12/3/2008:
Right. But you could do one of the following:
- Put the info in the Welcome message
- Put links to the messages you want new folks to read in the Welcome message
- Put the stuff you want new members to read on a web page, and provide a link to that.
Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwelch@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org
Hi,
I have posted a mailer on 05/12/2008 around 4PM IST in one of my mailing list. In the list I have around 25000 subscriber. I have subscribed to same list with email id start with b, z etc to check the posting. I have not yet recieved any mail to those ids. I am list administrator and do not have shell access I have only access through Control Panel. How can I know whther the mailer is distributing or not.
Regards SwapanMr. Swapan Kumar Mitra Kolkata, WB, India. Mob:+91 0 98303 34580 E-mail Disclaimer This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > Date:Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:41:04 -0800> From: mark@msapiro.net> To: mitra_swapan@hotmail.com; mailman-users@python.org> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple subscribers set in mailman> > swapan mitra wrote:> > > >I am new to mailman and I have List Administrator access only to the mailing list.> >Can I do the following and if yes how can I do that:> >We have series of messages (all messages are interlinked by topic) which we want to share with our mailing list subscribers. Now this is fine with already subscribed mailing list members. But who joins new into the same Mailing list we want to send them, messages from the first one and onwards how can we do that? As the new subscribers are only receives the current messages they will find meaning less content. I hope I can get some solutions for this.> > > > Mailman can't mail the old messages to new subscribers. The new> subscribers have to read the old messages in the list's archive.> > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan>
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swapan mitra wrote:
I have posted a mailer on 05/12/2008 around 4PM IST in one of my mailing list. In the list I have around 25000 subscriber. I have subscribed to same list with email id start with b, z etc to check the posting.
Mailman doesn't send in email address order. It is unlikely, but possible that all the addresses you subscribed will be sent towards the end of the list.
However, you sent this on Mon, 8 Dec 2008 05:53:52 +0000 which if I am correct is 11:23 AM IST or almost 3 days later. If all the list members haven't been delivered by now, something is very wrong.
I have not yet recieved any mail to those ids. I am list administrator and do not have shell access I have only access through Control Panel. How can I know whther the mailer is distributing or not.
Determining whether mail has been sent and debugging such problems requires access to Mailman and MTA logs on the server. You will have to enlist the aid of someone who has that access.
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9> for basic troubleshooting information.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
swapan mitra writes:
You can't do that in Mailman, and you would likely find both new subscribers and their Internet providers would be annoyed.
What you can do is enable the public archiving feature. Then users can visit the archives and browse the threads (topics) that they are interested in at their own convenience.
On 12/01/2008 05:58 AM, swapan mitra wrote:
As others have pointed out, you can point (new) subscribers to the mailing list archive.
If you wanted to, you could set up the news gateway so that Maiman sends copies of posts to a news group on a news server and then have your (new) subscribers download individual messages from there.
(I suspect that it might even be possible to get something to extract messages from either the archive or the news group and send individual messages to the (new) subscribers upon request.)
Oh, don't worry, you are not alone in wanting this feature. I've given it some thought too. I'd love to find a way to ""request that individual messages are sent somewhere after the fact. Once I figure this out, it would be nice to extend the "...-request@..." handler to support this.
Grant. . . .
swapan mitra wrote:
Mailman can't mail the old messages to new subscribers. The new subscribers have to read the old messages in the list's archive.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro wrote at 08:41 AM 12/3/2008:
Right. But you could do one of the following:
- Put the info in the Welcome message
- Put links to the messages you want new folks to read in the Welcome message
- Put the stuff you want new members to read on a web page, and provide a link to that.
Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwelch@redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org
Hi,
I have posted a mailer on 05/12/2008 around 4PM IST in one of my mailing list. In the list I have around 25000 subscriber. I have subscribed to same list with email id start with b, z etc to check the posting. I have not yet recieved any mail to those ids. I am list administrator and do not have shell access I have only access through Control Panel. How can I know whther the mailer is distributing or not.
Regards SwapanMr. Swapan Kumar Mitra Kolkata, WB, India. Mob:+91 0 98303 34580 E-mail Disclaimer This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > Date:Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:41:04 -0800> From: mark@msapiro.net> To: mitra_swapan@hotmail.com; mailman-users@python.org> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple subscribers set in mailman> > swapan mitra wrote:> > > >I am new to mailman and I have List Administrator access only to the mailing list.> >Can I do the following and if yes how can I do that:> >We have series of messages (all messages are interlinked by topic) which we want to share with our mailing list subscribers. Now this is fine with already subscribed mailing list members. But who joins new into the same Mailing list we want to send them, messages from the first one and onwards how can we do that? As the new subscribers are only receives the current messages they will find meaning less content. I hope I can get some solutions for this.> > > > Mailman can't mail the old messages to new subscribers. The new> subscribers have to read the old messages in the list's archive.> > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan>
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swapan mitra wrote:
I have posted a mailer on 05/12/2008 around 4PM IST in one of my mailing list. In the list I have around 25000 subscriber. I have subscribed to same list with email id start with b, z etc to check the posting.
Mailman doesn't send in email address order. It is unlikely, but possible that all the addresses you subscribed will be sent towards the end of the list.
However, you sent this on Mon, 8 Dec 2008 05:53:52 +0000 which if I am correct is 11:23 AM IST or almost 3 days later. If all the list members haven't been delivered by now, something is very wrong.
I have not yet recieved any mail to those ids. I am list administrator and do not have shell access I have only access through Control Panel. How can I know whther the mailer is distributing or not.
Determining whether mail has been sent and debugging such problems requires access to Mailman and MTA logs on the server. You will have to enlist the aid of someone who has that access.
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9> for basic troubleshooting information.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
swapan mitra writes:
You can't do that in Mailman, and you would likely find both new subscribers and their Internet providers would be annoyed.
What you can do is enable the public archiving feature. Then users can visit the archives and browse the threads (topics) that they are interested in at their own convenience.
On 12/01/2008 05:58 AM, swapan mitra wrote:
As others have pointed out, you can point (new) subscribers to the mailing list archive.
If you wanted to, you could set up the news gateway so that Maiman sends copies of posts to a news group on a news server and then have your (new) subscribers download individual messages from there.
(I suspect that it might even be possible to get something to extract messages from either the archive or the news group and send individual messages to the (new) subscribers upon request.)
Oh, don't worry, you are not alone in wanting this feature. I've given it some thought too. I'd love to find a way to ""request that individual messages are sent somewhere after the fact. Once I figure this out, it would be nice to extend the "...-request@..." handler to support this.
Grant. . . .
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