Larry,

BINGO! You hit the nail on the head !!! Problem solved!

Your comment prompted me to review the smrsh.c code within the sendmail distribution. When CMDDIR is not defined by the OS (I couldn't find in in any system *.h files), then in smrsh.c it defaults to /usr/adm/sm.bin/ . Even though RedHat7.2 already has an /etc/smrsh/ directory (including a link entry there for slocal), the Sendmail (at least the 8.11.6 version I downloaded and installed) was not using that directory. Instead, it was looking for the default /usr/adm/sm.bin/. The /etc/smrsh/ directory was a red herring! Once I created the /usr/adm/sm.bin, and chmod 755 (recommended by the smrsch/README within Sendmail), and then set up the symbolic link in there: mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman the problem disappeared.

Thanks!!!

-keith

-----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:26 PM To: keith@bioinformaticstech.com Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue

--On Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:20:22 -0800 Keith Steward <ksteward@keithsteward.com> wrote:

Larry,

Yes, the /etc/smrsh/ directory contains a symbolic link to the mailman wrapper: ie. /etc/smrsh/mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman are you SURE that your SMRSH is set to use /etc/smrsh as it's CMDDIR?

Also, did you try it with the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman aliases as someone else pointed out?

LER

Thanks.

Keith

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-----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: Keith Steward; mailman-users@python.org; mailman-developers@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue

Did you put links to the $MAILMANHOME/mail/mailman program in the CMDDIR directory for your copy of SMRSH?

LER

--On Sunday, December 29, 2002 13:31:35 -0800 Keith Steward <ksteward@keithsteward.com> wrote:

...

Arghhhh!!!

After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward@keithsteward.com>, size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJ g jI3 Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use mailman request test1 sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1", ctladdr=<test1-request@justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: gBTEUjD30786:

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DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: to=<ksteward@keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) ----------- end segment ---------------

System information: RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 The /etc/aliases includes: ## test1 mailing list test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Sendmail

...

can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) account

...

on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman

Things i've tried:

• ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail
• path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman'
• ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
• copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) into /etc/smrsh * changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail
• by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining about the gid * by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid complaint.
• restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config

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changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of:

• Mailman INSTALL
• Mailman README.SENDMAIL
• Mailman README.LINUX
• Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc
• the mailman-developers list archives At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon Mailman and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think i've run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important than

...

the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks.

-keith s.

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