Mailman owner delivery
Hi all,
I have a minor mystery. I recently migrated to a new server, hosting a half dozen or so Mailman lists. The old server ran on Fedora 8, but I had upgraded to Mailman 2.1.18. The new server is Fedora 22, running Mailman 2.1.20. Postfix is the MTA on both.
Migration was just to copy over ~mailman, install the new software (same paths), install /etc/aliases and ~mailman/aliases. And everything worked! Or so I thought, I found one little thing that doesn't. Held message e-mails going to the -owner addresses have a strange issue. I have "list-help" aliases for all my lists, and the MM list owners are set to those addresses. I've verified that the aliases work, and deliver mail to all the folks on the alias if I just send a message. However, Mailman -owner mail only comes to me (I'm the first address on the list and local to the box). I can find no errors in the logs, it all looks like it's working (status=sent).
Any suggestions appreciated.
--Bryan
-- Bryan Blackwell -- Unix Systems Engineer bryan@skiblack.com
On 02/22/2016 01:51 PM, Bryan Blackwell wrote:
I found one little thing that doesn't. Held message e-mails going to the -owner addresses have a strange issue. I have "list-help" aliases for all my lists, and the MM list owners are set to those addresses.
Do you mean that you have an additional per-list alias like
LISTNAME-help: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman owner LISTNAME"
Or do you mean something else?
I've verified that the aliases work, and deliver mail to all the folks on the alias if I just send a message. However, Mailman -owner mail only comes to me (I'm the first address on the list and local to the box). I can find no errors in the logs, it all looks like it's working (status=sent).
Does the postfix log say for mail to mailman-owner
status=sent (delivered to command: /path/to/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman)
or something else. If it delivers as above, Mailman should then resend the mail to all addresses listed as owner or moderator of the mailman list. Is this not happening?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Feb 22, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 02/22/2016 01:51 PM, Bryan Blackwell wrote:
I found one little thing that doesn't. Held message e-mails going to the -owner addresses have a strange issue. I have "list-help" aliases for all my lists, and the MM list owners are set to those addresses.
Do you mean that you have an additional per-list alias like
LISTNAME-help: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman owner LISTNAME"
Or do you mean something else?
Something else. In the system alias file I have:
LISTNAME-help: bryan, dennis@foo.com, matt@bar.com
The Mailman List Owner points to that. I get the messages, but Dennis and Matt do not.
I've verified that the aliases work, and deliver mail to all the folks on the alias if I just send a message. However, Mailman -owner mail only comes to me (I'm the first address on the list and local to the box). I can find no errors in the logs, it all looks like it's working (status=sent).
Does the postfix log say for mail to mailman-owner
status=sent (delivered to command: /path/to/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman)
or something else. If it delivers as above, Mailman should then resend the mail to all addresses listed as owner or moderator of the mailman list. Is this not happening?
That's just what I'm getting. No errors, it appears to deliver to the system alias but the alias never gets expanded. The system alias otherwise works as expected, it's something specific to the MM -owner mail.
--Bryan
On 02/22/2016 02:51 PM, Bryan Blackwell wrote:
Something else. In the system alias file I have:
LISTNAME-help: bryan, dennis@foo.com, matt@bar.com
The Mailman List Owner points to that. I get the messages, but Dennis and Matt do not.
Do you mean the 'owner' attribute of the mailman list is LISTNAME-help@... or something else.
Please try to anticipate my next question and give me all the info, i.e. to what address do you send mail that doesn't work. How is that address aliased in postfix - check every file in postfix alias_maps.
where does it go from there ...
That's just what I'm getting. No errors, it appears to deliver to the system alias but the alias never gets expanded. The system alias otherwise works as expected, it's something specific to the MM -owner mail.
I think you are saying that the 'owner' of the 'mailman' list is LISTNAME-help@..., postfix delivers mail to mailman-owner to the mailman/mail/mailman wrapper, but then it only goes to you. Is that correct?
What are the
X-Original-To: Delivered-To:
headers added to postfix in the mail you receive. What's in the maillog following delivery to the wrapper, I.e. what messages come back from Mailman after that?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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