Re: [Mailman-Users] Posts not showing in archives

Anne Ramey wrote:
I have a list that had 2 recent posts that are not showing up in the archives. They are in the post log as successful posts, but don't show in the archive. Any idea how that could happen? The archiving settings are to rotate monthly, privacy set to private.
And Mark Sapiro replied:
Is ArchRunner running? Are the messages still in the archive queue?
Is only this one list affected? Is there anything in Mailman's 'error' log?
And Anne Ramey replied: Archrunner is running, other lists archived in that timeframe fine. There is nothing in the error log. The messages are listed as successful posts and were delivered successfully. There doesn't appear to be anything waiting in the archive queue. It is also just the messages on the 3rd and 5th that didn't get in the archive. The message on the 7th (yesterday) is there.
Do the missing messages have the same message-id as a message already in the archives? I had an archive question in December, and Mark's reply was that a message will not be archived if its message-id already appears in the archive, as the second message is a duplicate of the first. (RFC 2822 says that the message-id must be unique.)
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Barry Finkel wrote:
And Anne Ramey replied: Archrunner is running, other lists archived in that timeframe fine. There is nothing in the error log. The messages are listed as successful posts and were delivered successfully. There doesn't appear to be anything waiting in the archive queue. It is also just the messages on the 3rd and 5th that didn't get in the archive. The message on the 7th (yesterday) is there.
Do the missing messages have the same message-id as a message already in the archives? I had an archive question in December, and Mark's reply was that a message will not be archived if its message-id already appears in the archive, as the second message is a duplicate of the first. (RFC 2822 says that the message-id must be unique.)
Barry is correct. You can verify whether or not this is the reason by looking in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file. If the 'missing' messages are not in the HTML archive because of duplicate message-ids, they will be in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file and you can also search for possible dup message-ids.
If the missing posts are not in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, the only other thing I can think of is that someone set the lists archive setting to 'No' prior to the message on the 3rd and it was set back to 'Yes' after the 5th.
Note that even if you don't write the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox because of ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX being set to other than 2, you can still search the post log for duplicate message-ids.
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-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:00 PM To: Mailman-Users@python.org Cc: Barry Finkel; Ramey, Anne Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Posts not showing in archives
Barry Finkel wrote:
And Anne Ramey replied: Archrunner is running, other lists archived in that timeframe fine. There is nothing in the error log. The messages are listed as successful posts and were delivered successfully. There doesn't appear to be anything waiting in the archive queue. It is also just the messages on the 3rd and 5th that didn't get in the archive. The message on the 7th (yesterday) is there.
Do the missing messages have the same message-id as a message already in the archives? I had an archive question in December, and Mark's reply was that a message will not be archived if its message-id already appears in the archive, as the second message is a duplicate of the first. (RFC 2822 says that the message-id must be unique.)
Barry is correct. You can verify whether or not this is the reason by looking in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file. If the 'missing' messages are not in the HTML archive because of duplicate message-ids, they will be in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file and you can also search for possible dup message-ids.
If the missing posts are not in the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, the only other thing I can think of is that someone set the lists archive setting to 'No' prior to the message on the 3rd and it was set back to 'Yes' after the 5th.
Note that even if you don't write the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox because of ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX being set to other than 2, you can still search the post log for duplicate message-ids.
The messages are not in the mbox file and the list owner/admin swears they didn't change the settings. Interesting.
Anne
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