Re: [Mailman-Users] forwarding test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org to another domain?

At 09:10 +0300 08/29/2003, ODHIAMBO Washington wrote:
Thanks,
I will try it, but right now, sendmail will not even let me send mail to it. first it refused SMTP connections, now that I commended out something in sendmail.mc (per advise I got) sendmail refuses to relay...
did not know that, I always put my reply at the top, so that it is easier to find/read. will put at the bottom from now own.
-avi
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At 09:52 AM 8/29/2003, Aviram Carmi wrote:
You have a sendmail problem, it is not properly configured to relay for your mailman email. The solution will be found within sendmail, and if you don't know how to find that then you should ask on a sendmail list. It's no longer a mailman issue.
I did not know that, I always put my reply at the top, so that it is easier to find/read. will put at the bottom from now own.
You need to *also* snip un-needed text from the quoted material, only quote the portion you are directly replying to.
jc

At 10:48 -0700 08/29/2003, JC Dill wrote:
OK, I am learning slowly but surly...
I resolved my sendmail problems, (added lists.first5venttura.org to /etc/mail/access local-host-names and relay-domains)
Now I can "talk" to mailman...
however this is what I get back from mailman. I guess I messed up the configuration, but even though this message from mailmain probably looks very clear to you guys, I am lost...
do I need to re-install mailman from scratch with --with-mail-gid=mail ?
what about the other configuration changes I made? will I have to re do all of them?
The original message was received at Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700 from 206-72-86-2.otn.com [206.72.86.2] (may be forged)
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner test" (reason: 2) (expanded from: <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "mail". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
Reporting-MTA: dns; ns2.otn.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; 206-72-86-2.otn.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700
Final-Recipient: RFC822; test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner test Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 2 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:33 -0700
Return-Path: <avi@otn.com> Received: from otn.com (206-72-86-2.otn.com [206.72.86.2] (may be forged)) by ns2.otn.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h7TI3WGB020690 for <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700 Received: from 206-72-86-42.otn.com (206.72.86.42) by otn.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2) for <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p05210602bb7545da3e6e@206-72-86-42.otn.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:08 -0700 To: test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org From: Aviram Carmi <avi@otn.com> Subject: testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
this is only a test.
-avi
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Aviram Carmi Owner Executive Vice President, Technology
Over TheNet (R) 601 Daily Drive Suite #226 Camarillo, CA 93010-5840
http://www.otn.com/ Building Profitable Web Sites Today (805) 384-1144 Voice (805) 384-9111 FAX
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At 11:11 -0700 08/29/2003, Aviram Carmi wrote:
Now I can "talk" to mailman...
I re-configured mailman --with-mail-gid=mail, it seems to work now, thanks to all who helped.
one observation though.
the confirmation message when a user received when they join, says to
"simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact."
however, replying to the message, by default ads "Re:" to the subject which caused the confirmation to be rejected by mailman. see below.
Replying again, after removeing the "Re:" worked, and I got the "welcome" message.
Shouldn't mailman be smarter and recognize the "Re:"?
I'll bet that most users will just hit "reply" which (at least on my email client Eudora 5.2.1 under MacOS 9.2.2) adds an "Re:" to the subject line.
Is there a setting I am missing?
-avi
-avi
--
Aviram Carmi Owner Executive Vice President, Technology
Over TheNet (R) 601 Daily Drive Suite #226 Camarillo, CA 93010-5840
http://www.otn.com/ Building Profitable Web Sites Today (805) 384-1144 Voice (805) 384-9111 FAX
(C) Copyright 2003, Over TheNet (R) All rights reserved.

At 09:52 AM 8/29/2003, Aviram Carmi wrote:
You have a sendmail problem, it is not properly configured to relay for your mailman email. The solution will be found within sendmail, and if you don't know how to find that then you should ask on a sendmail list. It's no longer a mailman issue.
I did not know that, I always put my reply at the top, so that it is easier to find/read. will put at the bottom from now own.
You need to *also* snip un-needed text from the quoted material, only quote the portion you are directly replying to.
jc

At 10:48 -0700 08/29/2003, JC Dill wrote:
OK, I am learning slowly but surly...
I resolved my sendmail problems, (added lists.first5venttura.org to /etc/mail/access local-host-names and relay-domains)
Now I can "talk" to mailman...
however this is what I get back from mailman. I guess I messed up the configuration, but even though this message from mailmain probably looks very clear to you guys, I am lost...
do I need to re-install mailman from scratch with --with-mail-gid=mail ?
what about the other configuration changes I made? will I have to re do all of them?
The original message was received at Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700 from 206-72-86-2.otn.com [206.72.86.2] (may be forged)
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner test" (reason: 2) (expanded from: <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "mail". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
Reporting-MTA: dns; ns2.otn.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; 206-72-86-2.otn.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700
Final-Recipient: RFC822; test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner test Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 2 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:33 -0700
Return-Path: <avi@otn.com> Received: from otn.com (206-72-86-2.otn.com [206.72.86.2] (may be forged)) by ns2.otn.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h7TI3WGB020690 for <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:32 -0700 Received: from 206-72-86-42.otn.com (206.72.86.42) by otn.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2) for <test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p05210602bb7545da3e6e@206-72-86-42.otn.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:08 -0700 To: test-owner@lists.first5ventura.org From: Aviram Carmi <avi@otn.com> Subject: testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
this is only a test.
-avi
--
Aviram Carmi Owner Executive Vice President, Technology
Over TheNet (R) 601 Daily Drive Suite #226 Camarillo, CA 93010-5840
http://www.otn.com/ Building Profitable Web Sites Today (805) 384-1144 Voice (805) 384-9111 FAX
(C) Copyright 2003, Over TheNet (R) All rights reserved.

At 11:11 -0700 08/29/2003, Aviram Carmi wrote:
Now I can "talk" to mailman...
I re-configured mailman --with-mail-gid=mail, it seems to work now, thanks to all who helped.
one observation though.
the confirmation message when a user received when they join, says to
"simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact."
however, replying to the message, by default ads "Re:" to the subject which caused the confirmation to be rejected by mailman. see below.
Replying again, after removeing the "Re:" worked, and I got the "welcome" message.
Shouldn't mailman be smarter and recognize the "Re:"?
I'll bet that most users will just hit "reply" which (at least on my email client Eudora 5.2.1 under MacOS 9.2.2) adds an "Re:" to the subject line.
Is there a setting I am missing?
-avi
-avi
--
Aviram Carmi Owner Executive Vice President, Technology
Over TheNet (R) 601 Daily Drive Suite #226 Camarillo, CA 93010-5840
http://www.otn.com/ Building Profitable Web Sites Today (805) 384-1144 Voice (805) 384-9111 FAX
(C) Copyright 2003, Over TheNet (R) All rights reserved.
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